I know that Mark is making the red new round ones, but i am wondering if there are any of the German made not chinese round Werle relays? i recently found one of my original ones was not working perfecty, it is shorting out( it was on the FI board so i was getting a cutting out issue), and since i do hvae a few of Mark's red ones i put one of those in there, but id like to find some OEM german ones and have searched but not found any.

any one have any NOS OEM ones i am interested.

Phil

The early 911 and 914-6 had round relays with metal cans. On later cars, they were plastic. I buy up all of the metal canned relays I can find for our factoy six.

Are you referring to an OEM Black plastic round relay?

New relays Porsche is selling are made in China. Get some used ones and test them in the headlight socket.

914Rubber manufacturers their own relays which they say are of higher quality:

https://914rubber.com/search/?q=relay

I remember when these first came out they setup a testbed to run the relays through thousands of cycles to prove durability. Heard the real-time video was enthralling and won an Oscar or something...

We also have two excellent options.

here is an option that will fit inside the original plastic case
https://www.restoration-design.com/store/pr...-911.615.109.02

or this option has the same components with an black anodized aluminum case.
https://www.restoration-design.com/store/pr...11.615.109.02WC

We have sold many to customers installing our harnesses and we also run them in our cars. none have failed.

Pete
Restoration Design

yea back during the group buy i bought 6 of these and had not converted over except on my headlight up front, so maybe time to swap those out, and i will keep searching for some original ones.

@ClayPerrine yes the black plastic ones, but i suppose the metal ones would work too

I can tell you ours are superior.
Over 600,000 cycles! We tested them.

Our design is unique and emplores atechnique no one else does.

It would be difficult for you to say that when you haven't bought one of ours... but I'm not here to argue. I think my product is more suited to people who would like to retain an original case.

Pete

There is a reason we could get the excessive cycles that should exceed the OEM and others in the market. We took on a significant additional expense to manufacture these the way we did. In fact you will only find this kind of system on aircraft.

Guys...

Let's not get into a flame war over who's parts are better. We want you both here for a long time.