emerygt350
Aug 22 2024, 02:07 PM
Just went camping and came home to this on the front steps. I assume the family of the original owner found this in the house and dropped it off but they are not around to ask. Is this everything? Is there a handle or something that goes on the bit you turn?
bdstone914
Aug 22 2024, 02:12 PM
QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Aug 22 2024, 01:07 PM)

Just went camping and came home to this on the front steps. I assume the family of the original owner found this in the house and dropped it off but they are not around to ask. Is this everything? Is there a handle or something that goes on the bit you turn?
Yes but the scissors dont go with it.
That could be a 911 jack. What is the lenght? I have ine at the shop to compare to.
I dont remember the step in tbe arm that goes into the jack reciever.
Root_Werks
Aug 22 2024, 02:46 PM
It is a green dot jack which I think means it's compatible with 914's.
emerygt350
Aug 22 2024, 03:03 PM
So you were supposed to just grab that little handle and turn? Seems like a less than German level elegant solution....
jim_hoyland
Aug 22 2024, 03:14 PM
The handle needs a wood cover you can grab.
930cabman
Aug 22 2024, 03:18 PM
QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Aug 22 2024, 03:03 PM)

So you were supposed to just grab that little handle and turn? Seems like a less than German level elegant solution....
It's that simple. I have used these style jacks for many years, just need to use caution, especially on less than smooth concrete. Remember our teeners was an entry level machine.
Root_Werks
Aug 22 2024, 04:42 PM
I've seen versions of that jack that had a plastic grip on the handle. Fit was sloppy assuming to reduce friction when cranking on it.
I haven't used one of those jacks in decades (and won't). I don't recall needing any sort of sleeve over the handle.
StarBear
Aug 22 2024, 05:34 PM
The later jacks 75-76 had a two piece tongue that went into the jack hole. Great for completeness but don’t use; they’re very susceptible to slipping (small foot plate) and bending.
rgalla9146
Aug 22 2024, 05:43 PM
That style jack was used on many German cars from Rabbits to Vanagons.
Many iterations, many capacities and heights.
As mentioned, the step in the part that goes into the receiver looks off for our cars.
Maybe someone can post a pic of a 'green dot ' that is correct for our later cars.
emerygt350
Aug 22 2024, 07:22 PM
This was the only piece I didn't find when I bought it, all the terrible 'tools' and even the little vinyl bag was in the boxes. It would be nice if this was the original 73 jack that came with the car.
bkrantz
Aug 22 2024, 07:52 PM
QUOTE(StarBear @ Aug 22 2024, 05:34 PM)

The later jacks 75-76 had a two piece tongue that went into the jack hole. Great for completeness but don’t use; they’re very susceptible to slipping (small foot plate) and bending.

IMO these jacks, like most from the 1970s, are sketchy and best avoided.
930cabman
Aug 23 2024, 10:15 AM
QUOTE(bkrantz @ Aug 22 2024, 07:52 PM)

QUOTE(StarBear @ Aug 22 2024, 05:34 PM)

The later jacks 75-76 had a two piece tongue that went into the jack hole. Great for completeness but don’t use; they’re very susceptible to slipping (small foot plate) and bending.

IMO these jacks, like most from the 1970s, are sketchy and best avoided.
Depending on one's risk level or desperation or intoxication level
bkrantz
Aug 23 2024, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(930cabman @ Aug 23 2024, 10:15 AM)

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Aug 22 2024, 07:52 PM)

QUOTE(StarBear @ Aug 22 2024, 05:34 PM)

The later jacks 75-76 had a two piece tongue that went into the jack hole. Great for completeness but don’t use; they’re very susceptible to slipping (small foot plate) and bending.

IMO these jacks, like most from the 1970s, are sketchy and best avoided.
Depending on one's risk level or desperation or intoxication level
True. I have found that intoxication somehow affects risk tolerance. Does that mean 914s should have a fifth of Jack in the tool kit?
bdstone914
Aug 24 2024, 08:55 AM
@emerygt350 As I look at that more closely I don't think that is for a 914 or 911. The part that inserts into the jack post should be square. I have never seen one with a red band a the top. I have seen several variations of green dot and black dot Bilstein jack from 914's.
On some the handle is straight. On other the handle has a dog leg like yours.
I would only use one of those in an emergency. Most I have seen are bent from the car rolling forward or back when the car is lifted. I would carry a scissors jack or other safer type jack for actual use and leave that type in the trunk for display.
Literati914
Aug 24 2024, 11:54 AM
Doesn't the problem come from people using these jacks without chocking the wheels on the opposite side - so then the car has a potential to move. I like something like these no matter the jack used. :
emerygt350
Aug 24 2024, 04:05 PM
bdstone914
Aug 24 2024, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(Literati914 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:54 AM)

Doesn't the problem come from people using these jacks without chocking the wheels on the opposite side - so then the car has a potential to move. I like something like these no matter the jack used. :
Yes. Not everyone carries wheel chocks. I have also seen the jack rip the jack post. Often it is rusty and not known to be.
Superhawk996
Aug 24 2024, 05:02 PM
QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Aug 24 2024, 06:18 PM)

I have also seen the jack rip the jack post. Often it is rusty and not known to be.
Rusty jack post on a 914? Say it isn’t so.
bdstone914
Aug 24 2024, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(Literati914 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:54 AM)

Doesn't the problem come from people using these jacks without chocking the wheels on the opposite side - so then the car has a potential to move. I like something like these no matter the jack used. :
Yes. Not everyone carries wheel chocks. I have also seen the jack rip the jack post. Often it is rusty and not known to be.
Literati914
Aug 24 2024, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Aug 24 2024, 10:12 PM)

.. Not everyone carries wheel chocks...
Well, let's encourage everyone to then. The one's I pictured, fold away and take up little space. Apparently the e-brake is often out of spec.
doug_b_928
Aug 25 2024, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Aug 22 2024, 08:22 PM)

This was the only piece I didn't find when I bought it, all the terrible 'tools' and even the little vinyl bag was in the boxes. It would be nice if this was the original 73 jack that came with the car.
@emerygt350 here are some pics of the Jack that’s in my 73. If I recall correctly the jacks vary by years and the 73 should have the bend in the arm for
the handle (which yours and mine do have). Mine doesn’t have the VW and Made in Germany symbols on the top and no red piece, but otherwise looks the same.
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emerygt350
Aug 25 2024, 01:06 PM
Excellent, thanks for the photos.
Literati914
Aug 25 2024, 04:43 PM
QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Aug 25 2024, 02:06 PM)

Excellent, thanks for the photos.
Here's probably more info than you wanted
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...Green-dot-jacks
emerygt350
Aug 25 2024, 05:24 PM
Wow. Rabbit hole.
barefoot
Aug 26 2024, 06:47 AM
It won't fit your Chalon kit body.
emerygt350
Aug 26 2024, 03:59 PM
I will have to check. I have the normal jack points and Jack point access on my long covers.
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