ok, heres my new project. this is going to go pretty slow, until i can get some decent time to get work done... I hate school. ordered metal, and am waiting for it to arrive. I'm glad i didn't pay alot for this car, cause i found 100 percent more rust than I expected. things that looked solid, fell apart. lots of fabrication work. But i'm not afraid to fabricate stuff. I gotten pretty good. here are some pics that are more recent. Hope you enjoy this thread!!!!!!! drivers side after digging

drivers side after cutting

template made.............no making fun

metal cut and hammered to shape.....old school

havn't welded these pieces yet. and dont want to buy a 130 dollar piece to replace this sail panel passenger side

template

metal cut and formed.....thats a hard piece to make

passenger side firewall

metal

passenger front side floor solid

cant say the same about the drivers side nice patch.....sorry about the andy style pic

patch removed

looks like you have alot of work ahead

good luck and be sure to have patience!

did find something that made me a little happier though. steel fuel lines through the center tunnel

well, that's going to be a lot of work, but you sure will learn A LOT about your car in the process ...

oh, and i highly recommend you buy a gallon or two of "Metal Ready" and spray the hell out of ANY surface rust you can find.
do that *before* you start patching the holes ...

Andy

whoops, skipped a couple pics. Here are the templates after they were cut

and last one for now. here's a pic of me smoothing out the metal, before i bent them into place. and if you didn't know i was 14, you do now

I was just about to say it... buy Andy beat me to it. Kill the rust under there before welding the patches on. I use Ospho and paint it with Hammerite 24 hours later.

Kudos for taking this on!

if you are wondering why i am working outside, its because no electricity has been run to the garage yet, cause its like 100 yards from the house. the garage is the best thing to happen when we moved

Dang, I wish I had a garage like that. Outstanding.

Yes, make SURE you use Ospho or metal ready or some kind of rust killer before you cover up or patch any rust, or else the rust will still grow.

Good work... you've done a lot more so far than I've done on my car

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM)

if you didn't know i was 14, you do now

Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses?

way to go !!!!

it's awesome that you are going ahead with this, you'll be way ahead of your classmates doing a project like this....

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses?

ROFL

Bravo! That's cool, seeing a 14 year old tackle that project. Keep at it.

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM)

and if you didn't know i was 14, you do now

can't decide what i hate more, your guts or my age ...

when i was 14, all i was interested in was girls!
Andy

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 03:50 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses?

thanks, i like the encouragement

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 05:40 PM)

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 03:50 PM) QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses? thanks, i like the encouragement

Easy there tiger. Just having some fun. I think what you're doing is great. Ya got your work cut out for ya and I'm looking forward to watching your progress. Lemme know if ya need any sheet metal. I have a roller that gets cut up when somebody needs something...

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 05:18 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 05:40 PM) QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 03:50 PM) QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses? thanks, i like the encouragement Easy there tiger. Just having some fun. I think what you're doing is great. Ya got your work cut out for ya and I'm looking forward to watching your progress. Lemme know if ya need any sheet metal. I have a roller that gets cut up when somebody needs something...

i know, i was just kiddin with you. thanks for the support

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 03:50 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses?

That is a friggin riot! I thought the same thing.

HUGE kudos on the task you have teken on!

Alright Man! It's going to feel so good when that body is painted . Your way ahead of me age wise, I didn't wreck the 914 till I was 16:).
Eric

QUOTE (MW 914 @ Oct 12 2005, 10:16 PM)

QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 12 2005, 03:50 PM) QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 12 2005, 04:33 PM) if you didn't know i was 14, you do now Is that because of your looks or the fact that you are using a bench grinder teetering on a narrow piece of lumber slung between two saw horses? That is a friggin riot! I thought the same thing. HUGE kudos on the task you have teken on!

I was thinking of the lack of gloves.


I always wear gloves now because I made a mistake one day and ground part of my middle finder off with a wire wheel. I'm only 17 BTW, so now offense.

I like the metal work, just make sure you are cutting out the rust until you hit good metal. I found that the patch plates I made always ended up being bigger that I originally though because of the hidden rust. Kepp up the good work. Also, if you don't have one already, I would suggest getting an anvil, it made my metal fabbing so much easier.

BTDT....

cut off part of my fingernail and fingertips using an angle grinder....

bit i also weld in shorts and sandles......

Barry....You da Man.....what an inspiration you are to the rest of us. School is the way to the high road...don't write it off yet...

QUOTE

did find something that made me a little happier though. steel fuel lines through the center tunnel

Sorry to disappoint you, but those are the stock fuel lines. The front 2 ft or so of the lines are metal, transitioning to plastic.

Hey Berry: How you doing with the new local now? Just rember what I told you. You know Joe and I will be moving south of you in the not to distant feature. By the time we get there you'll know more than us. This is really KOOL.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

QUOTE (Mueller @ Oct 12 2005, 05:04 PM)

way to go !!!! it's awesome that you are going ahead with this, you'll be way ahead of your classmates doing a project like this....

Imagine how many engine attempts you'd be up to if you started when you were 14!!!!


Grasshopper, you're ahead of your time thinking the 914 is cool at your age.

Hi,
good work. Nice to see that young people also love this old beauty´s.

Cutting out the rusted pieces: be sure you go far enough, so you can weld your nice fabricated patches to solid metal. Otherwise you won´t be very happy. Guess how i know

maybe you find this helpfull:

My Restoration Thread

Keep on your nice work, hope you can drive the car soon.

Barry, your enthusiasm is unreal, and you have a great eye buddy.

I had a great time this morning. When you get all your project stuff out of the way, I'll let you show me how to fix all my problems..

YAY!

Offer still stands if you want to drive my car around some.




Miles

haha thanks miles!!

Hi Barry,
here is the answer to the PM (don´t know how to append pic´s to pm´s, so i go this way).

I drilled out the spotwelds with a special drill. Surely you can find one at your flaps .

These are availlable in 6 and 8mm. I used the 6mm one. Worked fine for me. Be carefull not to go to deep. You dont´t want to drill the metal below the console.

here is a shot of the console drilled out. you can nicely use the holes for welding in the console again.

good advice is: bracing the tub to keep the door gap in spec.

i used an bar that mounted between the safetybelt mount and the doorhinge mount.

You should also built a frame to reproduce the position of the console.
I use the engine mounts as fix points and did some additional measurement. Worked fine for me.

follow the link:

Pictures

If you need more (pic ore information) feel free to ask.

wow!! Thanks soooo much michelko. That will help me soo much.

ok, i got a question about the door vents... can i just remove them all together???? i found some nice sized rust holes around them on both sides..... heres a pic, thanks!!!

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 22 2005, 08:30 AM)

ok, i got a question about the door vents... can i just remove them all together???? i found some nice sized rust holes around them on both sides..... heres a pic, thanks!!!

Yeah, but you'll lose the venting to the outside.. really only matters when you want to defrost the windows in the rain. Air won't have any way to get out, and if you open a window you'll get wet.

Is that an 8N in the background? My grandfather had an 8N on his farm in South Dakota.. He used to give me rides on it (I was a city boy, so tractors were cool).

QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 22 2005, 08:13 AM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 22 2005, 08:30 AM) ok, i got a question about the door vents... can i just remove them all together???? i found some nice sized rust holes around them on both sides.....  heres a pic, thanks!!! Yeah, but you'll lose the venting to the outside.. really only matters when you want to defrost the windows in the rain. Air won't have any way to get out, and if you open a window you'll get wet.

Apparently you didn't see the rust holes Royce. Those make nice vents.

Couldn't he just vent the cabin into the rear fender?

QUOTE (McMark @ Oct 22 2005, 11:07 AM)

Apparently you didn't see the rust holes Royce. Those make nice vents. Couldn't he just vent the cabin into the rear fender?

Hehe. Good point.. I wonder why the factory didn't do that. Road noise perhaps? It is pretty close to your ear. I guess there could also be water intrusion from water spinning off the tire.

QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 22 2005, 08:13 AM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Oct 22 2005, 08:30 AM) ok, i got a question about the door vents... can i just remove them all together???? i found some nice sized rust holes around them on both sides.....  heres a pic, thanks!!! Yeah, but you'll lose the venting to the outside.. really only matters when you want to defrost the windows in the rain. Air won't have any way to get out, and if you open a window you'll get wet.

how does that allow much air out anyway?? its covered with the interior padding.... and yes, that is an 8N in the background... my dad has restored a couple tractors now...