McMark
Oct 20 2005, 05:46 PM
This thread is for things I've noticed as I restore these cars. Just little concourse weenie tid bits here and there. Some things may be incorrect, but I stive for accuracy as much as possible. I'll be adding to this thread over time. So, without further ado...
McMark
Oct 20 2005, 05:47 PM
The door striker plates on a 70 914-6 were found to have mounting bolts that have small nylon locking inserts similar to the shift linkage cone screws.
McMark
Oct 20 2005, 05:51 PM
Similarly, all three mounting bolts for the seat belts have nylon inserts.
SirAndy
Oct 20 2005, 11:02 PM
How about the fact that the front top shock towers on all factory six were painted in black with some sort of thick undercoating like paint ...
1970 Neun vierzehn
Sep 21 2011, 07:02 PM
Hmmmmm. And this thread had so much potential;respected contributors, subject matter pertinent to this Forum, and it's almost six years old.
So to resurrect it, I'll ask a question.
Just WTF is this "vent", "hole", "air passage" for? I've heard all sorts of explanations on this site, and I'm not buying any of it. I mean, really, just how much air could possibly get through that passage with the door closed?
Paul
PanelBilly
Sep 21 2011, 08:26 PM
Allows air to excape betweeen the inner and outer seals when you close the door?
eric9144
Sep 21 2011, 09:10 PM
The vents aren't really for air flow in the sense of your vents on the dash, in fact not like that at all...
Ever been on the roof of a house? There's some odd ball small diameter pipes that come up through the roof above each bathroom...the vents are for your drains and they allow air to flow freely so when you flush you don't get the gurgling of air as it passes the fluids in the pipes...the vent allows air to draw in under the vacuum of the flush and keep the pressure neutral.
The 914 vent tubes serve a similar purpose (in theory at least)...they balance the air pressure between two places (outside/inside), as air draws into the cabin via the vents in the front around the dash, it is drawn to the vents at the back of the firewall pad and out the vent tubes...
IronHillRestorations
Sep 22 2011, 08:33 AM
They also prevent your ears from popping whenever you close the doors.
SirAndy
Sep 22 2011, 12:35 PM
QUOTE(eric9144 @ Sep 21 2011, 08:10 PM)
The 914 vent tubes serve a similar purpose (in theory at least)...they balance the air pressure between two places (outside/inside), as air draws into the cabin via the vents in the front around the dash, it is drawn to the vents at the back of the firewall pad and out the vent tubes...
Air flowing by the door gap is enough to draw a small amount of air from the inside through the tubes, thus helping the airflow inside the cabin.
JeffBowlsby
Sep 22 2011, 02:05 PM
Pat Garvey
Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Sep 22 2011, 02:05 PM)
I find this particulary interesting, and think it works!
Many of you are aware that I am a pipe smoker. For the first 4 years of owning my '72 it was a daily driver. Smoked my pipe with many trips, but noticed that the smoke exited (winter use/windows up) over my left shoulder & out of the cabin.
I have the hogshair filters in my rear vents. Every year or so (when I DID smoke in the car, and the last was 1978) I would pull the vents & hogshair filters, wash them, dry them & replace them.
Therefore, I firmly believe that these vents were part of the intended airflow out of the passengr compartment, in comjunction with the dash vents.
Pat
Pat Garvey
Sep 27 2011, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Sep 22 2011, 02:05 PM)
I find this particulary interesting, and think it works!
Many of you are aware that I am a pipe smoker. For the first 4 years of owning my '72 it was a daily driver. Smoked my pipe with many trips, but noticed that the smoke exited (winter use/windows up) over my left shoulder & out of the cabin.
I have the hogshair filters in my rear vents. Every year or so (when I DID smoke in the car, and the last was 1978) I would pull the vents & hogshair filters, wash them, dry them & replace them.
Therefore, I firmly believe that these vents were part of the intended airflow out of the passengr compartment, in comjunction with the dash vents.
Pat
This is the filter (hogshair) and vent that I brought up. I've seen some 71's with the vent cap & no filter. Everything I've seen of 72's on had the hogshair as original.
dlestep
Sep 28 2011, 07:34 AM
...when I had my '73, I noticed that all of my white t-shirts had a slight green tinge stain on the left shoulder. My theory is that they are fart extractors.
dlestep
Sep 28 2011, 07:43 AM
...on the serious side,
my '73 had two black plastic lines running from the charcoal cannister to engine bay, down the side behind the rocker panel.
I have heard no one talk about those vent lines. One connected to the tubular fitting on the outside of the fan box,
using bleed air from the fan box to extract fumes from the cannister back to the intake via those plastic lines.
SirAndy
Sep 28 2011, 11:10 AM
QUOTE(dlestep @ Sep 28 2011, 06:43 AM)
I have heard no one talk about those vent lines.
Then you're not looking hard enough.
This thread is only about 10 threads down on the main page here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=108524
dlestep
Sep 28 2011, 03:11 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 28 2011, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE(dlestep @ Sep 28 2011, 06:43 AM)
I have heard no one talk about those vent lines.
Then you're not looking hard enough.
This thread is only about 10 threads down on the main page here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=108524 tks for the info, I have the same data in my 914 library. With all of the restorations going on here and on pbase, they seem to be never mentioned or covered, and yes, I missed the thread listing. I was not complaining, just making note.
rjames
Sep 28 2011, 03:28 PM
QUOTE
This is the filter (hogshair) and vent that I brought up. I've seen some 71's with the vent cap & no filter. Everything I've seen of 72's on had the hogshair as original.
My '75 has 'em.
6freak
Sep 29 2011, 07:30 AM
QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 20 2005, 04:47 PM)
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the steering wheel is off set just a bit to the left, as in not horizontal to the dash...hard to notice but it is
Jasfsmith
Oct 1 2011, 06:18 AM
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 27 2011, 09:26 PM)
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Sep 22 2011, 02:05 PM)
I find this particulary interesting, and think it works!
I have the hogshair filters in my rear vents. Every year or so (when I DID smoke in the car, and the last was 1978) I would pull the vents & hogshair filters, wash them, dry them & replace them.
Pat
This is the filter (hogshair) and vent that I brought up. I've seen some 71's with the vent cap & no filter. Everything I've seen of 72's on had the hogshair as original.
Are you SURE that it is hogshair and not gray matter from some human's body? <grin>
914werke
Nov 13 2011, 10:24 PM
Here one from the obscure barrel, on most early doors the vent window is secured to the door in two places.
One 10mm bolt at a tab off of the vertical Anodized frame, the other is a 2"x.75" floating tab which inserts into the rubber seal, then mounts to a bracket on the door frame with another 10mm bolt.
In later doors that bracket was left off and the floating tab apparently deemed unnecessary leaving just the seal itself to hold the forward most part of the vent window in place.
Pat Garvey
Nov 14 2011, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(Jasfsmith @ Oct 1 2011, 07:18 AM)
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 27 2011, 09:26 PM)
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Sep 22 2011, 02:05 PM)
I find this particulary interesting, and think it works!
I have the hogshair filters in my rear vents. Every year or so (when I DID smoke in the car, and the last was 1978) I would pull the vents & hogshair filters, wash them, dry them & replace them.
Pat
This is the filter (hogshair) and vent that I brought up. I've seen some 71's with the vent cap & no filter. Everything I've seen of 72's on had the hogshair as original.
Are you SURE that it is hogshair and not gray matter from some human's body? <grin>
With my initials (PIG), I am certain. Believe mine to be those a a distant uncle, though DNA testing would be needed to prove it. Gray matter is more prone to degredation, rendering it very smelly and not usable within several days. No, it's hogshair/boarshair.
nathansnathan
Nov 22 2011, 04:16 PM
I was talking to a guy at the G&R swapmeet, NLA Six license plate, had a real early six, I asked him why he didn't have fresh air vents and he said really early cars didn't have them, that it would screw up the originality to put some in.
eric9144
Nov 22 2011, 04:28 PM
Early cars, 6 and 4, did not have the vents at the outsides of the dash face at all. They also had a center vent (additional defroster?) in the fascia between the dash and windscreen.
nathansnathan
Nov 22 2011, 04:44 PM
I think the vent in the dash is instead of the outer vents, for fresh air in.
I was talking about the plastic vent covers in the door jams.
nathansnathan
Nov 22 2011, 04:47 PM
What I mean is, there may be a reason there are no covers in there?
1970 Neun vierzehn
Nov 23 2011, 08:50 PM
QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Nov 22 2011, 02:47 PM)
What I mean is, there may be a reason there are no covers in there?
OK, pure conjecture on my part.......1970 & early '71s had empty holes (there's a redundant statement). Later 914s had the black plastic grilles inserted into the opening because....
A) little kids were putting pennies and pebbles into the openings in an effort to be be "cute" (rattle,rattle,rattle)
B) the factory decided that the vent holes looked cheap and unfinished and added the little grille
C)early in the 914s' existence, no one really knew what those holes in the door jambs were for, so the German engineers spec'd those little black plastic grilles to substantiate the theory that those holes were really "venting" something and therefore needed "filters" installed.
Any other theories
Paul
davep
Nov 24 2011, 07:04 PM
To keep nasty insects out. Did YOU want a wasp nest in the system?
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