OK so I went down and got some aircraft stripper this morning. Reading and taking everyone's suggestions, based on previous posts. THis is some kind of joke right? THis is something everyone plans for the newbies?
It is coming off but with three layers of paint good god what a pain in the ass.......
I sear there is 12 coats of paint ifthere's one!!!

To top it off. I'm having the carpet cleaned, and the guy is running the hoses through the house, and then out the garage. He is finishing up and while winding his hoses, he knocks over the pan I'm using to brush the stripper on the car with, and the can of the stripper. Dragging the drop clothes the length of the garage!!!!
Is everyone stupid around the country, or just in California!!!

Deep breath!!!!!!

mmmm ok...Back to work.....

Nobody said it was easy, but it is the easiest. I.E. least manual labor. Have Fun Newbie!

The "aircraft stripper" works great on smaller parts, but I can imagine stripping an entire car with it.

This is gonna sound kind of hokey, but I'm using (or used a month or so ago for an experiment) a set up that I rigged for sanding the drywall mud in my house to lessen the amount of dust created by this process. I tried just hooking my shop vac to the sander with a length of hose, but the filter in the shop vac clogged within seconds from the super fine mud dust........so "plan B". I saw one of these at Lowe's, but couldn't see paying $40 for something so simple.

I'll see if I can describe it so I don't have to drag all of the crap out for a pic...I've got a 1/4 sheet Porter/Cable electric palm sander with a dust collector port (works fine on small projects, but clogs up fast). I ran a 1" dia. hose (15' long) from the collector port on the sander, into a spare 5 gal. bucket (old 'mud' container w/lid [hole in lid for inlet hose from sander, and enough hose fed through the lid to reach the bottom of the bucket]), filled the 5 gal. half way with water, cut another hole in the lid for my shop vac hose to fit through (tight fit, only inserted a couple of inches to prevent it from sucking water).

So here's what happens.....You switch on the shop vac, the shop vac sucks on the bucket drawing on the hose that goes to the sander collector port (think big waterpipe ). The dust gurgles through the water in the bucket retaining a significant amount of the dust. Any dust that escapes the "water trap" is then filtered by the shop vac.....virtually no dusty mess created by sanding the car. And the shop vac filter lasts much longer before replacement is required.

I had up to 6 color coats on my shitbox.....now that'll make you cry. It took me about a month & a half to get the shit off.

anuther

again

just one color coat here

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 09:46 AM)

The "aircraft stripper" works great on smaller parts, but I can imagine stripping an entire car with it. This is gonna sound kind of hokey, but I'm using (or used a month or so ago for an experiment) a set up that I rigged for sanding the drywall mud in my house to lessen the amount of dust created by this process. I tried just hooking my shop vac to the sander with a length of hose, but the filter in the shop vac clogged within seconds from the super fine mud dust........so "plan B". I saw one of these at Lowe's, but couldn't see paying $40 for something so simple. I'll see if I can describe it so I don't have to drag all of the crap out for a pic...I've got a 1/4 sheet Porter/Cable electric palm sander with a dust collector port (works fine on small projects, but clogs up fast). I ran a 1" dia. hose (15' long) from the collector port on the sander, into a spare 5 gal. bucket (old 'mud' container w/lid [hole in lid for inlet hose from sander, and enough hose fed through the lid to reach the bottom of the bucket]), filled the 5 gal. half way with water, cut another hole in the lid for my shop vac hose to fit through (tight fit, only inserted a couple of inches to prevent it from sucking water). So here's what happens.....You switch on the shop vac, the shop vac sucks on the bucket drawing on the hose that goes to the sander collector port (think big waterpipe ). The dust gurgles through the water in the bucket retaining a significant amount of the dust. Any dust that escapes the "water trap" is then filtered by the shop vac.....virtually no dusty mess created by sanding the car. And the shop vac filter lasts much longer before replacement is required.

You just pretty much described how an oil both air filter works. Nice work.

QUOTE (McMark @ Oct 22 2005, 11:54 AM)

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 09:46 AM) The "aircraft stripper" works great on smaller parts, but I can imagine stripping an entire car with it.  :huh: This is gonna sound kind of hokey, but I'm using (or used a month or so ago for an experiment) a set up that I rigged for sanding the drywall mud in my house to lessen the amount of dust created by this process.  I tried just hooking my shop vac to the sander with a length of hose, but the filter in the shop vac clogged within seconds from the super fine mud dust........so "plan B".  I saw one of these at Lowe's, but couldn't see paying $40 for something so simple. I'll see if I can describe it so I don't have to drag all of the crap out for a pic...I've got a 1/4 sheet Porter/Cable electric palm sander with a dust collector port (works fine on small projects, but clogs up fast).  I ran a 1" dia. hose (15' long) from the collector port on the sander, into a spare 5 gal. bucket (old 'mud' container w/lid [hole in lid for inlet hose from sander, and enough hose fed through the lid to reach the bottom of the bucket]), filled the 5 gal. half way with water, cut another hole in the lid for my shop vac hose to fit through (tight fit, only inserted a couple of inches to prevent it from sucking water). So here's what happens.....You switch on the shop vac, the shop vac sucks on the bucket drawing on the hose that goes to the sander collector port (think big waterpipe  :toke: ).  The dust gurgles through the water in the bucket retaining a significant amount of the dust.  Any dust that escapes the "water trap" is then filtered by the shop vac.....virtually no dusty mess created by sanding the car.  And the shop vac filter lasts much longer before replacement is required. You just pretty much described how an oil both air filter works. Nice work.

Didn't think of it that way......don't have one on my car.


OH!! I forgot to mention in the "description". I drilled a shitload of holes in the part of the hose that is submerged in the water to make the bubbles smaller......it worked much better after I did that.

Six Coats???? Oh man.. It appears that I have three seperate layers of white. Multiple coats of primer etc.
It looks like I will need to apply three different applications before it's down to metal. I guess it's a hell of a lot easier then sanding!!!!

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 11:48 AM)

Six Coats???? Oh man.. It appears that I have three seperate layers of white. Multiple coats of primer etc. It looks like I will need to apply three different applications before it's down to metal. I guess it's a hell of a lot easier then sanding!!!!

oh brian, i talked to your wife, she said you offered to strip mine too!

ill be over at 3PM

QUOTE (McMark @ Oct 22 2005, 09:44 AM)

Nobody said it was easy, but it is the easiest.  I.E. least manual labor.  Have Fun Newbie!  :lol2:

Blow me....


Mark if you want to drive down from up North, you can help me out... All the burgers you want.....

It sounded like some sort of power BONG. Leave it to you Calyfornya types to think that one up.

Cyclonic dust seperators work on a cyclone principle allowing the dust to settle out toward the middle of the cyclone.

Hmmmm. We do have lots of tornados in these parts.

Perhaps things are invented depending on what you are used to....


I have stripped entire cars with aircraft stripper. Do a panel at a time and don't let that crap dry or it gets tough to get it off.


good luck

just my $0.02

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 22 2005, 10:51 AM)

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 11:48 AM) Six Coats???? Oh man.. It appears that I have three seperate layers of white. Multiple coats of primer etc. It looks like I will need to apply three different applications before it's down to metal. I guess it's a hell of a lot easier then sanding!!!!  :headbang: oh brian, i talked to your wife, she said you offered to strip mine too! ill be over at 3PM

Up yours!!
Smart ass.

QUOTE (JOHNMAN @ Oct 22 2005, 10:58 AM)

It sounded like some sort of power BONG. Leave it to you Calyfornya types to think that one up. Cyclonic dust seperators work on a cyclone principle allowing the dust to settle out toward the middle of the cyclone. Hmmmm. We do have lots of tornados in these parts. Perhaps things are invented depending on what you are used to.... I have stripped entire cars with aircraft stripper. Do a panel at a time and don't let that crap dry or it gets tough to get it off. good luck just my $0.02

Started with a 3'x3' section as suggested, I think it did let it dry to long. I have been giving it 45 mins per application. I will try giving 30 to see if that improves the end result.

QUOTE (JOHNMAN @ Oct 22 2005, 12:58 PM)

It sounded like some sort of power BONG. Leave it to you Calyfornya types to think that one up. Cyclonic dust seperators work on a cyclone principle allowing the dust to settle out toward the middle of the cyclone. Hmmmm. We do have lots of tornados in these parts. Perhaps things are invented depending on what you are used to.... I have stripped entire cars with aircraft stripper. Do a panel at a time and don't let that crap dry or it gets tough to get it off. good luck just my $0.02

I'm from Denver (The Mile High City), did a 4 year tour-of-duty in San Diego (no allowed by Uncle Sam ), and now reside in the Meth capitol of the universe (I'll pass on that.....gimme another beer, thank you ).


For you JOHNMAN:


http://modernduck.com/bong/

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:58 PM)

I'm from Denver (The Mile High  :toke:  City), did a 4 year tour-of-duty in San Diego (no  :toke:  allowed by Uncle Sam  :( ), and now reside in the Meth capitol of the universe  :angry: (I'll pass on that.....gimme another beer, thank you  :beer1: ).

and your name used to be "special k"

QUOTE (jd74914 @ Oct 22 2005, 01:42 PM)

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:58 PM) I'm from Denver (The Mile High  :toke:  City), did a 4 year tour-of-duty in San Diego (no  :toke:  allowed by Uncle Sam  :( ), and now reside in the Meth capitol of the universe  :angry: (I'll pass on that.....gimme another beer, thank you  :beer1: ). and your name used to be "special k"

ketamine (sp) isnt meth....

but still funny

So where's the stripper party gonna be held?

B can work on his car in the parking lot, while everyone else is inside... uhhhh recruiting new non-club members (or trying to get non club members to play w/ members members )

You didn't expect this to be easy did you B?

BJH

Eating lunch now,,, Still working on the hood.. SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!
Easy BJ no, but mmmmmaaaaannnnnn !!
Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..
Bring your ones....

QUOTE (jd74914 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:42 PM)

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:58 PM) I'm from Denver (The Mile High  :toke:  City), did a 4 year tour-of-duty in San Diego (no  :toke:  allowed by Uncle Sam  :( ), and now reside in the Meth capitol of the universe  :angry: (I'll pass on that.....gimme another beer, thank you  :beer1: ). and your name used to be "special k"

Good point!......But I'm so friggin' old I didn't know that "Special_K" was a drug reference until the last FFC. I need to get out more!

Mine was meant more like "Isn't that 'special' " in a sarcastic SNL church lady kind of way.


Is ketamine good for stripping paint? Or just brain cells?

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM)

Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know.. Bring your ones....

Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here.

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 03:14 PM)

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM) Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..  :sick:  :barf:  :barf: Bring your ones.... Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here.

you suck

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 22 2005, 02:22 PM)

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 03:14 PM) QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM) Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..  :sick:  :barf:  :barf: Bring your ones.... Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here. you suck

LOL!!!
All in fun my little red friend...

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 04:28 PM)

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 22 2005, 02:22 PM) QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 03:14 PM) QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM) Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..  :sick:  :barf:  :barf: Bring your ones.... Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here. you suck LOL!!! All in fun my little red friend...

Absolutely!!

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 04:14 PM)

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM) Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..  :sick:  :barf:  :barf: Bring your ones.... Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here.

Oh god the sandals!!!

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 22 2005, 02:22 PM)

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 03:14 PM) QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 03:21 PM) Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know..  :sick:  :barf:  :barf: Bring your ones.... Eeeewww.....getting a bad visual here. you suck

Aaron NNNNOOOOO!!!!!!

I just finished stripping my entire 914 down to metal. It took a day and a half. It only had a couple of paint jobs. I found that leaving the stripper on any longer that 15 minutes was tooooo long. On some of the tough spots, after one coat of stripper I would lightly score the paint with the edge of my putty knife which allowed the stripper to go-to-town.

A word of advice...be sure to get a good quality etching primer to lay down on the bare metal when you are ready for your initial coats.

Hey dudes. Try single sided razor blades (c. 6.00/100) held at a right angle to the body work's surface. It takes a little patience but is cleaner and creates a meditative state in the mind. Its a method used befor the invention of sandpaper. The trouble with stripper is that in can get into cracks and leech out after the paint is applied..

QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:11 PM)

QUOTE (jd74914 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:42 PM) QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Oct 22 2005, 02:58 PM) I'm from Denver (The Mile High  :toke:  City), did a 4 year tour-of-duty in San Diego (no  :toke:  allowed by Uncle Sam  :( ), and now reside in the Meth capitol of the universe  :angry: (I'll pass on that.....gimme another beer, thank you  :beer1: ). and your name used to be "special k" Good point!......But I'm so friggin' old I didn't know that "Special_K" was a drug reference until the last FFC. I need to get out more! Mine was meant more like "Isn't that 'special' " in a sarcastic SNL church lady kind of way. Is ketamine good for stripping paint? Or just brain cells?

Ketamine is a legitamate anesthesia drug. Being that it is structurally related to LSD it has the side effect of vivid dreams. Sometimes these are bad and the patient complains. I would guess the bad dreams come with 1 out of 100 patients. For this reason it is rarely used. I liked it because it is a respiratory stimulant unlike most anesthesia drugs. You don't have to worry about them stopping breathing. It is used far more often in veterinary medicine since if the patient has a bad dream you don't have to hear about it after they wake up. Now I just tried it and it will not strip paint. I would stick with methamphetamine for that...

Rob

You learn something everyday.

Thanks Rob, you obviously know what you're talking about.

I'm not sure how good meth is for stripping paint, but it's great at permanently removing toothless idiots that screw up trying to manufacture it.

QUOTE (bmunday @ Oct 22 2005, 01:21 PM)

Eating lunch now,,, Still working on the hood.. SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! Easy BJ no, but mmmmmaaaaannnnnn !! Stripper party, oh that's at Aarons house, he insists like dressing up as little red riding hood and stripping down to his uummm, well you know.. Bring your ones....

Lets vote:

Stripper party at Aarons: 0

Stripper party at Captain Creams: 1


Nothing against you Aaron, you'd have to had gone there to understand

Yo Brian,

If you are doing big panels...

Put a thick coat of stripper on and then immediatly cover it with Visquene. Plastic sheets.. you can use trash bag plastic.. the rolled plastic for drop clothes..

It keeps the active ingredient in stripper..

Like Methlene Chloride and a few other aromatic solvents from escaping into the atmosphere. This allows the stripper to work for a MUCH longer period of time before it evaporates off... REALYY makes big panels strip faster..

Ask Skline... He saw it.. And now he is a believer...

By the way... If ya want to make your stripper a bit hotter.. Add a bit "O" toluene or Methelyne Chloride to the mix..

Thats my 0.02 worth....

Twystd1

I got yer stripper.

Heh Clayton adding toluene makes it react quicker or lasts longer or makes it really kick ass on the paint????

Appearantly blasting with dry ice is the new shiznit??

Yeah.. Stripping with BLASTED ON dry ice IS the shiznit.. Even takes off the undercoating on the bottom AND the interior floor pans.

Plus some of these guys are mobile.

No residue, no stripper wicking into the paint a month later and no sand floating to the top of the paint.. Is really the hot setup...

Gunna have mine done that way as soon as I get the rotiiserie from John at the body shop.

Hey..... Heres one for you... have ya ever tried to get the baked on oil based sound deadner off the floor pan of a teener or even worse a honda?

Just go buy a BIG block of dry Ice. Have em cut it in thirds.
Place it on the floor pan...
Wait ten minutes and hit the floor pan with a big rubber mallet..
The stuff shatters likes MattRs tears when Slits is yelling at him....And comes off clean. Way fast... And way time effective. Doesnt work for every nick and crany. But it works trick...

This is an old school trick.. Me thinks I should write a book on how to do stuff the easy way.. And every non-member of our community gets to add a blurb..!!!!!

We can call it. THE WAY AARON SHOULD OF DONE IT FIRST TIME AROUND"

And for Bri... Yup if you add Toluene or even better Methlene Chloride. It speeds up the action of the stripper. And yes it evaporates even faster... hence using plastic to cover the stripper to slow down the evaporation rate and allow the stripper to stay PH compliant and effective for a longer period of time.

I used to own a commercial striping company eons ago... the systems are still pretty much the same as they have been for 40 years.

PM me if ya need a discourse on the possibility's..................................

Twystd1

you da man dawg

The dry ice is a good deal , it can also be used in the hot sun on paint to remove small dings and hail dents. Apply DI and quense with a cold rag, wa-la.
At work we blast 18 wheelers and large equipment, we use Walnut shell , for us its the best , good on rust, leaves a profile, doesnt bleed out, removes paint, enviro friendly as it can be.
With all that said I thought I would try the razor blade trick last night on my 914 right rear qtr, took all of 20 min . Well it work wonderfully, 7 coats of paint and you can remove them a coat or two at a time!
Leaves a very workable finish that can be backed up with a DA for finish work .
Thanks for the tip.....3cwest you can teach an old dog new tricks.