machina
Dec 28 2005, 08:09 AM
anyone know the technical names for the various parts of a crankshaft?
i know where the main bearings are, the journals, etc but I am unclear about concepts like the "planes" etc... and other terms.
bd1308
Dec 28 2005, 08:12 AM
ah the smell of learning...
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Mark Henry
Dec 28 2005, 08:20 AM
so many.....
Main and rod journals
OD
Stroke
radius (part of the journal)
taper
keyways
gears, spacer, clip
Plane refers to a balancing term
Even I would have to look it up, or at least think about it, to remember them all
Mark Henry
Dec 28 2005, 08:39 AM
On plane...think of a gyro you had as a kid. When you spin the center that is running in one plane (or axis) then the cage begins to spin, that is running in a 2nd plane (or axis).
On a crank you not only balance the crank you also have to correct for plane. This is to make sure the crank is not trying to turn end for end (on a 2nd plane or axis), which is hard on the bearings.
What else would you like to know
ArtechnikA
Dec 28 2005, 08:52 AM
plane may be a balancing term, but it's not the usual meaning in a crankshaft context.
it has to do to with how the crankthrows are arranged in phase.
a VW Flat-4 has a single plane. a 911 crankshaft is, IIRC, a 3-plane crankshaft, with throws 120-deg apart.
your standard V8 is a 2-plane crank, with throws 90-deg apart. this has an effect on firing order and thus header design. some racing V8's use a flat (single-plane) crankshaft - i believe with benefits in header design but an increase in vibration.
machina
Dec 28 2005, 08:57 AM
QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Dec 28 2005, 09:52 AM) |
plane may be a balancing term, but it's not the usual meaning in a crankshaft context.
it has to do to with how the crankthrows are arranged in phase.
a VW Flat-4 has a single plane. a 911 crankshaft is, IIRC, a 3-plane crankshaft, with throws 120-deg apart.
your standard V8 is a 2-plane crank, with throws 90-deg apart. this has an effect on firing order and thus header design. some racing V8's use a flat (single-plane) crankshaft - i believe with benefits in header design but an increase in vibration. |
that's what I was thinking about, any idea how a V12 jaguar crank is configured plane wise?
Bleyseng
Dec 28 2005, 09:20 AM
Is this what the little guy on Fantasy Island has always yelling about?
"the Plane,the Plane"
Mark Henry
Dec 28 2005, 09:25 AM
Rich is right...I was trying to keep it simple
I was thinking David was reading his balancing report and wondering WTF plane is. I was talking about cause and effect.
I get asked every time I give a report out...like the one spit out by a Sunnen DCB-750
JWest
Dec 28 2005, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (synthesisdv @ Dec 28 2005, 09:57 AM) |
that's what I was thinking about, any idea how a V12 jaguar crank is configured plane wise? |
The Jag V-12 is 3-plane.
thesey914
Dec 28 2005, 10:32 AM
I know Ferrari V8's have a flat plane crank....why they have that racing car scream and not that american V8 rumble.
maf914
Dec 28 2005, 11:49 AM
QUOTE (James Adams @ Dec 28 2005, 08:02 AM) |
QUOTE (synthesisdv @ Dec 28 2005, 09:57 AM) | that's what I was thinking about, any idea how a V12 jaguar crank is configured plane wise? |
The Jag V-12 is 3-plane. |
Very good!
How about a Porsche 917 flat 12? Or the still-born 917 flat 16? Or a BRM H-16?
balljoint
Dec 28 2005, 02:28 PM
This thread needs a sketch.
thesey914
Dec 28 2005, 02:51 PM
How about the Veyron W16?
Dead Air
Dec 28 2005, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (balljoint @ Dec 28 2005, 12:28 PM) |
This thread needs a sketch. |
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MarkV
Dec 28 2005, 03:18 PM
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