QUOTE(gms @ Nov 4 2006, 05:39 PM)
Do you loose point (in concours) for incorrect lenses, e.g., Euro lenses on US delivered car?
Do they pull off the lenses while judging your car?
Real European turn signal bucket
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Click to view attachmentThe answers are "probably not" & "defnitely", depending on the event.
Caveat here - I personally am a hardnose.
Show up at a regional concours with euro lenses/buckets & side marker lenses, I'll deduct. No side markers & euro lenses/buckets ( & they had better be both) & tell me your 914 is a eurocar, I'll probably believe you & let it go. Regional events are more forgiving.
But.......national events are WAY different. Show up w/euro lenses/buckets and side markers - you'll lose the max for originality of the category. Euro lenses/buckets & NO side markers - you'll have to show proof that it's an original euro car (COA would do). Rule of thumb - if it isn't original to the car, don't display it that way if you want to try to win. Once upon a time you could get away with personal touches at something like a PCA Parade - no more, if you want to win!
As I said earlier, I am a hardnose. Of the more than 50 concours events I've attended, 90% of the time I'm forced to judge. While everyone else is enjoying the chit chat & lunch, I'm under someones car judging it. You're off having fun while I'm judging your car. And yes, many of you wander away from your car while it's being judged - huge mistake. Not present to answer my questions - you're gigged for anything not right. If you're present, we can discuss & I may bend. Don't leave your car. And, because I'm a hardnose for originality, you WILL lose points, even at a regional event, for anything unoriginal. Not limited to turn signal buckets.
Concours, to me, is black and white. It's either correct/original or not. Not to say you'll lose points for cleanliness & prep - those are different points. But, if you're not original, and not present, you'll lose the max originality points from me automatically.
BTW GMS - this is NOT directed at you. You only asked the question.
Am I an as__ole about concours? Don't think so, just a purist.
Do I judge all cars equally? You bet! if you bring a a pink 914 to a concours & have proof that it was a paint-to-sample color - good with me, because it's original.
But that's just me. I'm a humble and completely unopinionated person.