QUOTE(sixerdon @ Sep 26 2006, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 26 2006, 04:28 PM)
BUT Nationally..As the dealer Rec'd it....
You hit it right there! "As the dealer Rec'd it..."
Sorry, be it Preservation/Restoration/etc., I'm hard nosed about it. Compete to win, regardless of the level (that's just me). Nothing better than wiping the snear from a Ferrari guy when he gets beaten by a 914, but the playing field is different when you compete multi-marque - usually it's easier than PCA.
The easy thing to do is keep it totally original. That way you can compete at every level, with no excuses.
Sorry guys, I don't agree with the "as the dealer received it". More like "as the dealer delivered it" Otherwise your standing is "slam anyone with a radio and whip them with an antenna from the right fender". Think about all the dealer accessories. Having a dealer badge, when new, would have made me angry at the time, but the dealer installed it non the less.
Don
Don,
Guess I need to clarify myself. "As delivered" means no unapproved aftermarket accessories. Radio, regardless of brand, should be accepted if it's period because the Factory provided a removable panel for it, as well as through-the-bulkhead holes for the antenna on the drivers' side. Antenna on the right fender = gig. Clarion radio = OK - the hole was for "a" radio. All the better if it's a Blau.
Addco bumper bars = gig (holes drilled to fit). Non-factory luggage rack (I can't recall if the factory offered one, though maybe) = gig (holes drilled to fit). Cocoa mats = OK, but they would come out of the car for judging anyway.
Though I hate to admit it, some of these things are a little judgemental. Take rustproofing. Factory encouraged it, but didn't provide it. Question would be (my opinion) - was it a proper job, or something added 15 years later to hide faults? (you can generally tell).
Dealer badges....believe me, if me car had come from Stoddard or Brumos new, I'd wear the badge proudly. Not sure abaout Brumos, but Stoddard used liscense frames - no badges, stickers, etc.
Boils down to the individual judge. Regardless of his/her background/training, there will always be a bias of some sort. So long as it's applied consistently, and so long as the judge knows his/her stuff, I don'r think it's a problem.
For example (my tastes), I love the look of a Euro 914 with no side markers & Euro lenses. Unless the owner can prove/convince me it's a Euro delivery car - gigged!
Antenna on the right fender - a gig EVERY time.