]I am cleaning up my 1971's engine while it is out for head repair,and am looking for some new decals for the top of the engine as shown below. Any sources?Click to view attachment

John,

Good luck! I haven't seen any in years!

You may want to check with Jeff Bowlsby of this forum, but I doubt there are any new ones around.

Had a discussion a month ago with a guy on eBay who claimed to have "original 914 stickers", but they were in copper foil & for 914-6's (though he disagreed with me). I seriously doubt they were "original" & defintiely NOT for a 4 cylinder.

Let us know if you come up with a source - even aftermarket, there is money to be made there.
Pat

John -
Any sign shop can make them for you, and the prices continue to get cheaper as the computer technology improves. I just had the below decals made for an old school bike restoration - they are perfect. The black head tube decal is black over prizm gold foil - they had the foil in a ton of colors, obvoiusly plain silver was one of them - both in a brushed and shiny finish. All the lines are very crisp. The entire sheet ran me 42.00. They should be able to get them nearly perfect.

Here is another example - the old sticker is from 1976. I just had the new one done. They matched the font perfectly - too bad my measurement on the oval were wrong!

Last I checked, AA had some of the valve clearance labels. I do not know if they are original or repros.

I have never seen any source for the timing labels. Here is a link to my labels webpage.

http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/PLM.htm

Nice web page, there those decals are, E2b and E3a. Related topic, the engine stamped white numbers, any ideas on what they mean? Below are the ones stamped on mine("M26/55"), plus the "022.6"on the other side.Click to view attachment

I wish I knew what the engine tin numbers meant. I have added your numbers to my labels webpage.

Does any one have the size (or font) of these numbers? I'd like to make a stamp to reproduce these for my engine tin after I powder coat them. (Mine tin was blasted off and then the tin was just painted. No more numbers).

Mike,

Went to the "old guru" of 914 info about this. He's completely done with Porsche & racing airplanes these days (the small ones), but gave me the "lowe" down & said I should go to the VW 411/412 site for this info. Tried, but my PC blew it's guts again (new Dell on the way).

Someone else please try - I'm living on borrowed time with this 6 year old Gateway! We NEED this info. First one to get it gets a free early rain tray with a crack in it - I'll pay the shipping!!
Pat

I took Pat's advise and did a search. found "M" codes for type 4 vw's. Note M26 is a code for the activated charcoal filter. Perhaps the 26 referenced in my M26/55? Coincidence? Although M157 seems a better fit. Any M157's out there?

M Codes
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'M' Code Optional Extras for the Type 4

Volkswagen maintained a list of options that were available when a new car was built. The codes were options or standard equipment in certain markets. These codes were called 'M' Codes.

This collection was taken from a dealer parts manual I have that dates to about 1974, but before production ended.

If you notice that I am missing some information, please feel free to email me.

List Of Optional Extras (M) shown in the Parts List

'M' Code: Description: Model: Markets:
M 20 Speedometer in miles 411-466 Export markets
M 25 Speedometer with trip recorder 411-466
M 26 Activated carbon container for absorbing fuel vapor 411-466 Japan
to Ch. No. 412 2100 000 411-466 USA, Canada
M 27 Compliance with US exhaust emission standards 421, 461 USA (west coast)
(west coast)
from Ch. No. 413 2000 001 M157: 411, 421, 461
M 30 Headlamp flasher 411, 415 Austria
with simultaneous license plate illumination 421, 425
to Ch. No. 412 2100 000 461, 465
M34 Without parking lamps but with white front 411, 415 Italy
turn signals 421, 425
461, 465
to Ch. No. 412 2100 000 412, 416
422, 426
462, 466
M 36 Buffer
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001 411-466
M 37 Without emergency light system 411-466 France, Italy
M 46 Side - mounted turn signals 415, 416 Denmark
Norway
to Ch. No. 412 2029 795 425, 426
465, 466
from Ch. No. 412 2029 796 411-466
M 50 Dual circuit brake warning light 411-466
M 60 Eberspächer Stationary Heater 421 Canada
to Ch. No. 411 2100 000
M 62 Rear view mirror, outer right, convex 411, 415 Sweden
421, 425
461, 465
M 82 Mounting parts for first aid kit 411-466
M 86 Drum brakes self-adjusting 411-466 Sweden
from Ch. No. 413 2000 001
M 89 Windshield glass (laminated) 411-466
M 93 Hinged quarter windows 411-416
461-466
M 102 Rear window glass heatable 411-466
M 103 Heavy duty shock absorbers 411-426
M 123 Specially suppressed parts 411-466 France
M 124 Yellow headlight bulbs 411-466 Export Markets
and safety rear view mirror
M 157 Exhaust control system and activated carbon 411, 421, 461 USA, Canada
container for absorbing fuel vapour
from Ch. No. 413 2000 001
M 184 Three-point safety belt 411-466 not for USA,
for front seat Canada
M 185 Three point safety belt 421, 461 Canada
for front seat
to Ch. No. 412 2029 795 421, 461 USA
M 185 Three point safety belt 411, 421, 461 USA
for front seat,
and lap belt for rear seat
from Ch. No. 412 2029 796
M 186 Lap belt - Rear seat 421, 461 Canada
to Ch. No. 412 2029 795 421, 461 USA
M 186 Lap belt - Rear seat 411-466 not for USA
from Ch. No. 412 2029 796
M 187 Headlamp (asymmetrical) for left hand traffic only 411-466
M 190 Increased side door strength
from Ch. No. 413 2035 048 411, 421, 461 USA
M 202 Increased engine heating with increased 411-466
warm air fan output
from Ch. No. 411 2068 021
M 208 Vehicles with trailer 411-466
M 237 Chrome trim 411-466
415, 416,
425, 426,
465, 466
M 244 Glass - Rear window (heat protection glass) 411-466
M 258 Higher front seat backrest (headrest) 411-466
M 260 Backrest, rear without arm rest 411, 412
421, 422
M 278 Side - mounted turn signals instead of 411, 412, Italy, Denmark
parking lamps 421, 422
to Ch. No. 412 2029 795 461, 462 Austria
M 288 Headlamp washer
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001 411-466
M 289 Sheer bolts for column tube attachment
from Ch. No. 412 2000 001 411-466 Denmark
M 298 Upholstery combination in Palisander 415, 416
425, 426
465, 466
M 299 Rear seat backrest lock 461-466 Sweden, USA
Canada
M 506 Brake servo 411, 415
421, 425
461, 465
M 523 Taxi version 421, 425
M 528 Additional outer rear view mirror, right, convex 411-466
M 552 Without heater booster 411-466 Export markets
M 553 Sealed beam headlights, turn signals with side 411, 421, 461 USA , Canada
marker lights, red taillights with red turn signals,
buzzer for ignition starter switch, side marker reflectors,
dual circuit brake warning light, activated carbon container,
with headlamp flasher and parking lamp and,
for Model 461, without reclining seats
from Ch. No. 412 2000 001
with exhaust emission standards M27
from Ch. No. 413 2000 001
Double horn M 572
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001
Spot light
from Ch. No. 413 2035 048
Buffer M 36
Increased side door strength M 190
M 554 Sealed beam headlights, turn signals with side 411-466 Export Markets
marker lights, red taillights, without headlamp flasher
and for model 411, 412, 421, 422 without
parking lamps
to Ch. No. 419 100 000
Sealed beam headlights, turn signal with side
marker lights and side turn signals
from Ch. No. 410 2000 001
M 557 Preselector heater time switch 411-466
M 558 with additional battery 411-466
M 560 Steel sliding sunroof and wind deflector 411-466
M 561 Front door vent wings 411-466
M 562 Reclining seats 415, 416
425, 426
465, 466
M 563 Backrest, rear with arm rest 415, 416,
425, 426
M 565 Sports steering
from Ch. No. 412 2000 001 411-466
M 568 Heat protection glass
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001 411-466
M 571 Rear fog lamp 411-466
M 572 Double horn 411-466
to Ch. No. 412 2100 000
M 599 85 bhp - Eng.
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001 411-466
M 633 fully suppressed version 411-466
from Ch. No. 414 2000 001
M 652 Interval relay for wipers 411-466
M 659 Halogen fog lamp 411-466
M 671 Protection - laminated glass 411-466
M 976 Wheel disc in spots (sports?) version 411-466
from Ch. No. 413 2020 452



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on his site Ratwell says the stamps are the date and engine production number so..
maybe M26 is March 26
56 is the engine number for that day

IO stands for In Order (in German) as its a quality control stamp.

Assuming a date is indicated, 'M" could be Marz(March) or Mai(May). Seems a bit ambiguous for the teutonic mind set. But does it make sense to date an assembly in such an obvious manner? And in a non-conventional way(usually a 3 would indicate March.) In the factory where type 4 engines were made, indicating obviously and somewhat temporarily (the paint applied quickly and lightly) world wide vs USA bound (non-emmision controlled or carbed vs fi, for example) going into location specific cars seems useful. The '022.6' we find on our 914's could indicate fi, or even 914 vs 411's.

I have seen only one picture of the VW engine assembly line (don't have it) and it was a huge engine assembly line. Some sort of coding was needed and VW did engines in batches soooo Thursday was 914 2.0l day etc......

Stamp on driver's side, engine tin, for car built 01/1970 (4 cyl)

If John has a '71 w/022.6 stamped on the engine tin and I have a '70 w/022.6 stamped on the tin as well, could that number signify the assembly line that the engine traveled down on its way to be mated to the chassis? I've got to think that those numbers were applied before the engine was raised/chassis lowered to mate them together. I'd be inclined to believe that the Karmann Osnabruck plant applied those numbers.

OK, I stand before you TOTALLY confused as to the engine shroud stamping!

Someone explain, in simple terms for an aged person, what this means. I must be missing somehting here, because the listing provided does not meet my remeberance for the code in my tin. Could be wrong, but my coding was a simple 3 digit code, with no "dot" anything.

I have a set of tins I'm about to restore & would love to have the right code so a stamp can be made, but you really early guys have this funky xxx.x scheme - mine had no .x, thought I am certain it was 6xx.

Was really hoping to get clarification from the "old Master", but he didn't know either. Am I making too much of this?

Pat, you can see the progression of these engien tin numbers on my webpage if you have not reviewed them yet. The secret decoder ring has not surfaced though...The M-numbers listed above are a different animal for the factory optional equipment codes re: a vehicles build specification. I have most of those on my webpage too.

Let me state the obvious here; because we are working with incomplete data, drawing conclusions from one or a few cars is tricky at best. Let's take "022.6". So far, we have it on early engines (W codes), in '70 and '71. Do we have it on any late engines? Do we have it on any non USA delivery cars? Is it on VW type 4 cars? Conversely, do we know of any'70 and '71 USA delivery 914's where it is absolutely absent from day one? Let's then say that we answer the above questions and determine that it was found only on US bound 914's in W series engines with fuel injection. Then we could draw the conclusion that it probably should be on all those early engines in 914's, and the code means whatever made those engines different from other type 4 engines.

there are available some of those decals from a bus site as I have a set. Some match the 914 ones. I'll take a pic of them.

label sheet from WolfsbergWest

Since the numbers are on the engine tin, and the shape of the engine tin for the 914 is different than everything else, it is not likely that it identifies the engienas 914. We know the alternator and the flywheel & clutch package is different than other engines as well. I confess to having no idea as to what they actually mean. There is far to many styles of coding to start with.