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i dont know what to say, but here goes...
we're excited (especially kenny) about tomorrows trip to wcr. well- we are on our way to get gas tonight, the 914 just got on behind us as we entered the freeway. the 914 shut off then pulled off.
got it towed home, fuel pump coming on, wont start with knock (light). not sure if its mechanical or possibly in ign. has pertronix.
grounded coil, still light knock. suspect if mechanical it dropped a valve, except they were just adjusted (professionally) about 500 miles ago (sounded purfect/ not tight).
it was just driven and looked over at reputable porshe shop a week ago for the trip and it's a low mile very well maintained car. 1.7 d-jet.
ANY INPUT OR ??
bummed in ceres

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not to change topic...but what wheels do you have they look really nice

Mine shutoff for no good reason last week at a stop light...everthing checked out except no spark. Turned-out to be a 2 month pertronix unit that decided to just go bad. I have had bad luck with those ignitors...even though I love their simplicty. I'm tired of being left on the side of the road....went back to points.

Funny thing, went to two different FLAPS in my area to pickup a dwell meter (figure I might as well go all the way), and in both instances the guys behind the counters didn't evern know what a dwell meter was...that's scary...and ended up not even carrying them any longer. It even took two clerks at Sears before I found one that even knew what a dwell meter was! Finally picked-up a nice unit online at Harbor Freight.

PS Sorry for your break down...how disappointing... BTW, beautiful car...other than the old Shelby's, I never have liked orange all that much....I must admit, 914's look pretty awesome in signal orange!

I called him last night, midnight my time.
Using the phone, and three people we checked fuel, gas and spark.
All of that works. Got it started again, loud clack/clunk sound.
Hard to tell over the phone, sounded like a dropped valve.
For all I know, it could have been something simple.
The motor may have dropped a valve seat, or had some sort of valve train issue, loose rocker, stud etc.
When I finally hung up, they were going to remove the valve covers to see if anything obvious was going on..

Seeing as I am in Mass, I could not go over there and help.
I would have if I was anywhere close.
Well, I ended up calling McMark on his cell, told him the situation, gave him the phone number, and left it in his hands.

I would think that a road trip at 10-11pm on the eve of the WCR to rescue a 914 would have been totally appropriate, so I hope its all good and Kenny and Mike are all good to go.

They had two junk motors, many good heads, all the same size.
So, they had what was needed to get it done, but maybe the extra help would make sure it got done.

dunno.

Rich

I had a dropped valve seat once and the motor wouldn't turn past the cylinder that dropped the seat.

Maybe an exhaust leak or something with the rockers...

Thoughs wheels are called western wheels.

with 400 914 owners or more in CA, you guys really need to think about how to help this guy, versus what wheels he has.

Go over there, show the 914World how we unite to fix a broken 914.

Stop talking, actions speak louder than words.

I know that Brad would have driven the two or three hours to get this done, no questions asked.

If I were any use in an engine bay, I would. I passed on the auto-x and am at loose ends here at WCR, if somebody needs unskilled hands or a lift.

I am so with you!! Wish I was close enough to step up and help!

HOWEVER, I would not rag on tweeter because he wanted to know about the wheels. (They look like "Westerns" to me.)

Brad? Brad who? Brad is the man. On some other board. But I haven't seen him around here lately. In my neck of the woods, plenty of guys would step up and go help out. So I appreciate that challenge. Ok, all that aside....

Very cool of you to step up Rich!!!!! Hope some locals join you.

thanks, i like them too. they are westerns, weird hard to find lugs though

i had pertronixs in a 76 2.0 l-jet bus. it ran good but under smog test conditions h.c. readings where excessive (more than normal vw!). it was basically shutting off even though you couldnt hear/feel it.
the pertronix are not the problem here unfortunately

this guy is what makes this club great. smart, very helpful and patient, remember he was dealing with a grouchy dad and a 17 year old. we had to take a short break as we were exhausted and have to regroup and look over our repair options
thanks, rich

Just curious... what coil are you running w/ the Pertronix? Thanks.

unfortunately the 914 was entering the freeway behind us, i would imagine higher rpm's (didnt want to ask). dont get me wrong in wasnt abusive high. but i have a feeling we're looking at pistons and head. i'll be looking inside the engine next week probably.
any input on upgrades for h.p. while i'm in there? (with stock d-jet)

hey we're game. i'll even feed ya' all! if in fact it dropped a valve and a piston, i figure if the motor is out why not 8.5 compression set and maybe rebuilt heads or ? it would take alittle searching and a few $ but would be the time

i'm open to any help, i can instruct fairly well as i was a mechanic for 25 years before my accident. maybe we could get a few experianced guys on 914 engine r&r. i've got a equipt shop in back
mike

i'm running a "flame thrower". probably an overpriced giget but seems to work. got a "blue" coil sitting around, what kind of voltage/amperage are they supossed to put out? and the pertronix, as cheap as it is did improve drivability. someday maybe a real elctronic ign. is there a modern complete f.i./ign. system out there for these?

It specifically says in the Pertronix installation instructions not to use a HEI coil & was curious. The flamethrower is a Pertronix product is it not?

good question. i didnt know that, i also dont know if its a pertronix product
its supposed to put out more voltage

I checked... it is a Pertronix product & it's supposed to be the perfect coil for the Ignitor system.

cool, seems to work great thanks for checking it out for me. got enough happening lately to fix

Re: dropped seats-- The last one on my car (don't ask!) was tough to diagnose until I noticed my starter cranked rather unevenly. "RR-RR-RR-..-RR-RR-RR-..". One cylinder wasn't providing any resistance to the starter, because it had zero compression.

Might be something simpler than a dropped seat; I hope it is!!

--DD

I know a guy with a few motors. PM sent

Did you get a chance to take off the valve covers and have a look?

Rich

thanks toby
thought id copy my p.m. i returned to you for all as I HAVE A PLAN!

thanks, thats definately an option that i havent thought about yet.
i just talked to keith (owns a porsche repair shop here in ceres) that has done a few things on it before. he offered to help kenny pull and install the engine in his shop. we would then do the pistons? and or heads here at home.
i've been looking at every options however as cost are an issue. good if we can sell off his parts stash-bad if not
i'm thinking the best option would be euro pistons w/ 2.0 plug heads and hustleing up a few hands to guide kenny with engine assembly (on the bench)
what do you think?
mike

hi rich
thanks again for walking kenny through diag. steps.
we havent pulled the covers yet, but keith (local porsche repair shop owner) today confirmed at minimum there is a dropped seat.
he has graciously offered his shop lift and to help kenny r&r the engine, then we'd bring it home to do piston/cylendar repair (not sure of exacts yet). this is an opertunity to upgrade for alittle power if reasonably possible. but he'll have to move his parts $ stash
mike

Kenny & Crew, sorry to hear about the unfortunate news. Let me know if there's anything I can do and don't hesitate to call if you have questions. Keep us posted here. We'll be able to help and offer advice. Good luck!

acually i'm looking for advise and will soon be laying down the $'s for repair. when you have a moment i could use a few good ponters before purchasing. heres the post that lays it out. thanks everyone out there giving me some very respectable information already.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t=0#entry913120
mike