Did I miss something?

they have an off-topic board that from what I hear is really anti-american.

That's almost enough to make me go back there, just to start a flame-war... and get kicked off. lol

Thanks, Sean.

-Rusty

[RANT ON]

no, actually it's NOT anti american ...

there was 1 (ONE) post that was anti bush/war in iraq (which i don't consider anti-american at all).

i think Miles (redshift) is off his medication again.
it's a off-topic forum.
if you don't like to talk about off-topic stuff, simply don't go there.
if you still go there and you're offended by someones views/posts,
don't f***ing blame Pelican for it!

whatever happend to "freedom of speech"?
is that "republicans only" now?
everyone here seems to be able to tolerate pro bush/pro war posts.
according to the polls, that's only about half of the population of this country.

btw. i hate how you guys split everything in republicans/democrats.
this world is not black/white and neither are peoples believes and views about politics. there's much more to it than that.

[RANT OFF]

Andy

We should have a special [RANT] [/RANT] font Andy.

I hate both parties.... but not much I can do about it.

Andy.. for the most part Republican people "speak" more than a conservative Democrat.

You will always hear more Republican than Democrat backing (so it seams)


B

Thats cuz the Republicans are more closed minded and need to convert others to their narrow minded beliefs!

Geoff

I've edited my response several times now and have decided to give up. I don't really like either party in totality, but I also don't believe in being nuetral. I believe in absolutes, right and wrong and defending the former.

In the things that matter, there is really little difference with the two parties. I disagree with anyone that thinks government is "industry" and is somehow responsible to run the economy. That's what WE do. Joe american and business, large and small create the economy. A smaller and less intrusive government is good for this country. Individuals are by and large more benevolent and caring than the whiny liberals give us credit for.

Not much, but just a few thoughts.

Nothing wrong with being narrow minded. I believe in an absolute truth and nothing more, nothing less. There is no allowance for me to believe otherwise.

I still say theres something wrong with being able to make a full career out of being in politics. Maybe I'm mistaken, I thought the purpose was to serve your country and people not line your pockets as much as possible. I'm not saying they should starve, we have food stamps

John

and not only just your pockets but also the pockets of your friends and the companies you have ownership in.

can you say "Halliburton" ???

and this is by no means a republican problem but rather a problem with politics in general.

i never belonged to a political party and i never will.
Andy

I thought it was because most Democrats were illiterate from 40 years of liberal controlled Congress "dumbing down" public education to the least common denominator.

see, we can have our own "mud wrestling" party ...
we don't need no pelican off topic board!

Just for clarity, that was aimed at politics in general, not one specific party. Somedays I look at our country, ok most days, and think our founding fathers would be very disappointed in how it has turned out so far.

John

I don't know about the rest of the country, but Seattle is overun by Homeless People living under the Freeways.
The Republicans have controlled the congress and Senate for awhile, meaning what Bills gets passed. The money isn't flowing to help the poor and others unfortunate people.

The Rich get Richer.....


Geoff

The US is based on a capitalist society so the rich should get richer, Im not "rich" but I am doing better all the time, depends how hard I want to work I guess. Should the rich get poorer?

haha, that's a myth. no one ever got rich by working hard.

Andy

There have always been and will always be homeless people. It has nothing to do with who is in the congress or the white house. Homelessness goes back to the ancient days. They just weren't identified by their politically correct titles.

And about getting rich, it depends on your definition of rich. You can better your lot in life and climb the social ladder, if thats what you choose to do. It's your choice. But, if you are judging being rich on the scale of Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, a little luck helps also.

No man, fucking guy called me a racist for the term "Moslem Terrorists".

'Moslem' is not a race, and we aren't being attacked by Catholics. I am not a racist. That is more offensive to me than I can bear.

The schmuck there is a complete idiot, and I was told I was |____| that far from being banned, I thanked them for the time, and told them to delete my account, I won't be using it anymore, and I definately wouldn't buy a FUCKING thing from Pelican ever again.

The 'banter' is all based on shit, no facts, just 'anecdotal evidence', and a supreme knowledge of clouding issues.

I am a Libertarian, not the legalize drugs/anarchy kind, the leave me the fuck alone kind.

I choose where I purchase, I choose not to purchase there.

Don't tread on me.

Fuck Wayne, and his parts.

Miles 'Fucking' Hendrix

Off topic a bit but I liked it. I heard a good one today...a new verb for the english language.
It's called being "Dixie Chicked".
Freedom of speech unless it is unpopular with the government of the day and a slim minority.

It's all one guy from LA, and people from other countries slandering AMERICA, calling AMERICANS stupid, making jokes about AMERICA.... and they ask us for money, food, and help.

All the while, there is American blood splattered from pole-to-pole..

Gist of my post there:

I paid taxes to buy the red buttons. I'll pay for more if they'd make them. I don't play games, I don't have time, I live in a push button world. I wouldn't mind being a mushroom farmer, I like bright lights, and smoke.

My right to be pissed was bought and paid for with 3025 innocent people's lives... at work.

Oh Moslem terrorist.....



M

Well I guess a blow job and a warm shower at midnight is outta the question????

Yep.



M

Man.. I love you guy's. Everyone has a different view. This place would be BORING if everyone shared the same opinion.

I want everyone to know right now.. I dont care what "party" you belong to or what your "beliefs" are.

If you feel strongly about something... air it out. I air it out everyday (914's)


B

I want to go to the "party" where the girl in Zois' avatar is dancing!!!!!

I am fully for freedom of speech, if we disagree, we are going around, and I always throw the second punch when it comes to slugging, and I hit harder.

No reason to fight if you don't intend on leaving a reason not to fight behind.


M

Question:

Why is Alfred still on Rennlist ?? How is it that Dunk puts up with him ??


B

hmmm.....he's a racist. and on pelican. go figure

heh Irony is not lost on this young man.

WTG Aaron!


M

Because he has never posted any of his "enlighting " views on life on either board, just here.

Weren't we lucky?

yeah...i feel like a winner cuz i got to listen to his Arian race BS ..LOL

Cops is on CourtTV right now and it's about a mile down the street
I'm so proud!

HEH...i watched my white trash neighbor get arrested for beating his wife....

The republican party doesn't give a shit about public education because the two factions that run the modern republican party (the christian right and the wealthy) have their kids in private schools.

and thats why we our losing our edge over other countries! They have better schools and their kids can get in them without being rich.

Geoff

He is awarded no points. And were all dumber for having read his words.

I'm a firm believer in working harder not smarter.

Seriously, I never told you guys this but. I was unable to join the armed forces. I had a major back operation when I was 17. Spent 10 months in a body cast. The draft had justed ended but I tried to enlist anyway. The recruiter told me "were looking for able bodied men her son." I guess The brain is a usless muscle when it comes to the selective service. As a result of not being able to join the military I was aced out of civil servent jobs, Small business loans opportunities, and countless other things. I think I would have kicked some ass for our country and did my part to propect all you people. So I appreciate the guys that stick there neck out. If someone wants to bad mouth our land of opportunity that's fine. As long as they do it with respect and realize if they were anywhere else talking trash they would be D-E-A-D.

THis one's for you M.

You guys on the Rep/Dem fight are playing the wrong game.

Partys will never make this country great, it's individuals, and personal sacrifice.

The government school system sucks, as does state sponsored welfare, and healthcare.

When they take $100, and spend $50 of it on collecting it, $30 on moving it, and $10 on a system to oversee the other $10... welp... there you go.I'd rather spend the $100 on the 'item'.

I am sure I have qualified for many government programs in the past, I never took advantage of any, I just worked_my_ass_off at whatever_I_had to work at.

You just don't need it all.

I don't have much of anything for a person that won't do for himself. I find most people in the 914 community to be 'do it' type people.. don't get me wrong... there is nothing wrong with getting a little help.. you have to do the work on your own though, to take pride, you have to have pride, the most valuable single thing a person can have... pride keeps you alive.

Crap Government Program: Case in Point; NASA (sorry Dave)

I am against the space program, almost in toto. To the Moon again? To Mars? What a waste. Giant space telescopes are a different story. Pile them on.

In 1000 years, the technolgy can change, and make those things a value for those generations, but not ours, sorry.

Just because half the population drives $50,000 SUVs doesn't mean we can afford all this crap.

Potato chips cost almost $4.00 a bag... is that a valuable food item for a family on welfare?

No

If the Govt. 'will pay' $5 for a pill, that is what they get charged, even if the pills were $1 to start with.

Just a couple things in my direction for you to consider, the money is all there.... OOPS! and now it's not.. right?


M

lol

Now, if we could just have a friendly fire oopsy...


M

I think it's actually spelled this way.... Muslim

Yeah, but it used to be spelled Moslem .

I like the way things used to be, don't you, INFIDEL!

HELLOOOOO INFIDELS!

heh

M

Resisting.. the.. temptation.. to.. argue.. back. No one ever wins these arguments, and I rarely see any good come out of them. I vehemently disagree with MANY of the statements presented in this thread, but I'm glad that all of us have the right and freedom to think what we want and say what we want.. even if it pisses each other off.

...My mix of San Diego and Berkeley politics would not go over well here, haha.

Well put Andy

AMEN Red ! Staunch Libertarian here also.

until miles added his note re the ot forum i wasn't even aware of it. but no nasty words, oh no. so f,s,c,cs,mfing allowed. the thread with ot pictures was pretty funny. the anti george thread was deleted when i got there. wayne seems to be trying to open things up a bit. still that vendor issue . if folks can't seperate parts buying from politics (no offence miles) there is always aa. if you like expensive, stale, white bread. an ot rant livens things here up a bit. fuck it .

kevin/a nattering naybob of negativity
"by the way. the united states is a republic. not a democracy"

I am totally for people speaking their mind... completely. How would we know to avoid if everyone was a liar?

The world could be a very boring place if it always worked out my way, safe, effcient, and fair... perfect..... but boring.

Just don't call me a racist to subvert the issue, it's not at all true. I bite...

please don't feed the animals.


M

They'd probably go over just fine with me, but I don't like to participate in these political threads. I usually try not to read them, because a lot of what I see just makes me heartsick.

Sir Andy summed it all up pretty perfectly for me anyhow ... thanks, Andy.

Humor usually helps in threads such as these/those....if not, then the assume the poster is brain dead....

it's not just "the" two parties. there are lots of choices. i'm a registered Libertarian. (in the broadest possible strokes, fiscal conservative and social liberal...)

"third" parties can make a BIG difference... more people in Florida in the last presidential election voted for Ralph Nader than the difference between the Bush/Gore totals ... but as important, it gives you an opportunity to identify with a particular position in good conscience ...

Yes, third parties can make a difference their support of the self-serving mr nader gave us Bush "light". Thanks a lot. You must be very proud.

I really enjoy spending time around Jim...LOL



B