All this creative talk got me in the mood to share. This is in the development stages yet but I got alot figured out on paper. An the lids I have hookup already to open this far with out changing the moving part of the motor is all done with the lid. Tell me what you think!!

I dig it.

I always thought that the lights were a weak styling point.

Reminds me of the early Miata light changes. Looks good.
CCL

that is pretty cool

another idea, something similar to the old datsun zed cars, where the headlight is in the back, and so you mold a piece metal to hold the lights, and it slopes back up with the hood (a way to sorta remove pop up light feature)

hmmm, i should see how that would look


thanks for inspiring another idea


anyways, good luck on the design work, i am curious to see how it develops

btw, looks like you might do an hd light for it


that would be pretty sick, and def work better than our standard halogen light

Keep in mind the age of the cars wiring. Depending on the type of lighting used, the voltage draw may cause wire heating. Make sure you have some sort of relays installed.

My intensions is to make it halogen right now to upgrade little down the road to HID just because of the cost of the HID systems that will fit in the headlight bucket for hi/lo beam setup is $2000 right now. The halogens I'm going to use are 55watt lo beam projector an a 65watt hi beam reflector setup so the original wiring should be ok at these wattages if not I have a extra fuse block in f.trunk aready if need be. Then upgrade to HID high beam and ending up with dual projectors! An a headlight mount hook to all the original mounting points & motor so if I want I can switch back to original no problem!!

Looks like a interesting idea. what front end treatment are you using?
Charliew

I'd like to see a molden piece around the lamps, so it had a finished look. Something simple painted in black. That way it wouldn't stand out too much.

I like it...

If it only opens that far, there will be less drag and less blocked visiblility....

Ken

I love the idea.
What are the larger lights that you are using?
Can two of the larger lights fit in that space?
I have always thought that two lights, maximum size for
the space, like 4 inches, would look really cool.

I love the lower opening of the lights...cool.

Keep posting picks so I can copy your ideas...

Rich

I have access to a racecar shop we built dirt modified bodys out of sheet alum. so it will be wrapped in alum. prepaint black. No way I can test for drag but they ownly stick up about 4 inchs tops so definitely less to look at from the driver seat The ones i'm looking at the lens is 3 1/2" but you can't get two of them in there the bucket to small!!

i wonder for the turnsignals if there is just a longer, 1 piece rectangular one to use instead

idk

anyways, keep workin on the idea, i think it will add a new, more agressive look to the car with that light set up

There 911 turnsignals going in the f.bumper the ones that are in the pic. I hooked them up like that so I could drive the car this past summer!

Your work is very nice.I love the look of the headlights myself, but what you're doing is amazing. It's always fun to create something on a car that becomes your art. Keep it up and please keep showing it to us.

I had that same idea - So, you do all the work and then I will buy them from you....

NIce...

Heck yeah! ANYTHING at all that you can do to see better at night - and be SEEN better at night is great.

I've always thought the headlights were a real weak point on 914's.

Looks nice. I always wondered what it might look like with plexiglass light covers over the headlight. Like the 924 carrera gts cars.

Something like this.
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Dude im loving the pop up lights. that is freaking genuis. hey would you mind if i used it on my car? but i would leave the stock fenders on mine. i like the stock front blinkers.

that gts idea was sort of what i thought


keeps everything low, and the new fenders would probably make it look mean ass hell

4 years ago tough to do a low rise pop up lights…… then I went like this.

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I love the way your getting with this.... AWSOME

The only error in using the 924GTS lights behind plexi is the vertical height of the teener flaps vice the 924's, only a few inches if memory serves. I am loving Dan's solution though and can't wait to see it finished. He does some nice fab.

Dan, you mentioned using alum as the "Bezel" around those lamps, and not knowing your vision of the final product I would still like to suggest some molded bezels. kind of like how lowrider guys will build a wooden frame and drape the compsite over it. Looks really smooth when they apply it to their umpteen subwoofers. Just a thought and best of luck on your vision.

nice i may do something similar to get rid of the popup mechanisms. less weight!

I like that gts look also but i think the hood line is to steep an it wouldn't allow the light to shine down the road an there's really not alot of room in the headlight bucket to work with. An if you want to use my idea go ahead have fun!

The fixed Carrera GT headlights can be done, you can carry the front of the headlight bucket down lower into the top the front bumper. It would have a similar profile to the GT headlight covers, having 2 angles and not just the flat lid.

Hey Tony, The lights im looking at come with a bezel. An the alum. is to inclose the light fixtures.

An I almost went with no popups but change my mine.

Reneage has a video of a pop-up spoiler really cool stuff!!! http://www.renegadehybrids.com/PressReleases/PR06.html

I Love this idea! It looks great and projector beam headlights are awesome! I had HID's on my miata and it was the best set of lights i've ever had on a car.

I can suggest maybe instead of dropping t M notes on some HID's you could find some standard bulb projectors. Mazda uses them on everything but the top of the line cars (grand touring) so i know they exist. I bet they'd be a lot less spendy and you'd get a very similar effect. And you wouldnt have to install the transformer that the HID arclamps need!

The low beams are halogen projectors here a pic an the hi beams are just like the ones in the pics on top of this page. Then when I save up some $$$ I'll upgrade to HID high beams to match the low beam projectors for a full set.

So Since you have all this access to aluminium haev you thought of making them fixed and manipulating The aluminium over them to make it look stealthy rather than boxy? Kinda to match the look of the one on the top of the page.

HEY!!! You crawled into my brain and stole my idea...

Lookin good! Keep us posted!

That is my car, and yes it was a pain in the ass to design!
To address the head-light issue, I just welded mine shut and put small round headlights in the fog light holes.

Dana, Nice to meet you kinda. I did alot business with renegade building my car I talk poor Scott's ear off & Mike acouple of times to when I doing was doing my motor job. I really like your fab job on your wing is excellent man. I was looking at your pics I can't put one on my car all them bars that work the wing go right where my golf bag fits An my lights I like the popup thing I'll get them in there!

I saw your avatar in an episode of Top Gear.

Reminds me of one of our member's cars in New York....

It would be better to have HID low beams because of the ways hi beams are used.

Hi beams are normally blinked or change from off to on to off to on.

HID's really dont like this kind of thing. They are like those streetlamps in that they have to 'strike' and then come up to temperature.

The strike is what is hardest on the bulb and the transformer and using them as a 'blinking' light will burn the bulb out very quickly. Using them as headlights is fine because they are on and stay on for a prolonged period, which is fine for them.

Just FYI new HID bulbs run ~$250

Exactly what I was thinking of.

Thanks for the pic.

Purple, Thanks for the info new at this HID thing didn't know that maybe I'll just keep hi beams as is and upgrade the low beam to HID.

Update: I got the basic frame work done on my headlight project I got it all hooked up with all the original hardware! I got the lid mounts on I have the hi-beams once I get the low beams I'll weld mounting plates for the lights on the frame here some pics!!

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So, it's been a while since posted here as you can tell by the dates on this post lol and I'm back at it again.

And I have LED projectors for the headlights now but first I have to wait for it to get out of the body shop they started painting yesterday and I'm really liking it!!

More pics to come!
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Damn, 15 years later!

Welcome back ...

Holy thread resurrection Batman! Welcome back- a nice coat of color always helps.

Here it is with a few hours work yesterday.

I used the Chalon kit but cut the sail panels off and had the accordions taken off the bumbers never liked that about the kit to fill the void cutting the sail panels off had some custom scoops put in there not functional yet alot more work to be done.

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My Chalon kit had been altered similar to yours deleting the accordions and adding oil cooler vents in front of the rear fender openings. Just fits a small oil cooler back here.

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Nice, I at one point was going to go with red but changed my mind to yellow.

Dan,


I really like where you are going on your car. Keep it up. There are custom body haters, but I dig it. A unique Car. The yellow is also right on


Bob B I guess I missed your early postings so:

Thanks Bob love your car btw and the color. lol
And dealt with the custom side of it here in the past have no problem with it.

I went with BiXenon HID fixed lights on my 944.

My plan is a one piece header panel to eliminate all of the headlight gaps.

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