Click to view attachmentA guy I work with has a neighbor looking to sell a 1970 911T. It is in dry storage. They want $2,250 for the car.

I have added photos of the car. It is all there but the rust on the passenger side is extensive, from front wheel well to the rear suspension mount the long is basically gone. Floor is fully seperated and has droped down. Driver side is better but still has issues extensive rust in the rear of the long. Could not get under the front of the car but from the trunk side it looks OK, hard to tell though. The front seam of the trunk is gone though.

So (with photos added) what are these worth? What about in parts if I part it out? Where should I look for rust? Does the 911 have a hell hole?

If I can get this for $2000 can I get my $ back in parts or is this still a salvageable car?

Please don't part it out. If it's generally solid... I'd be very interested in it as a car.

I've always kicked myself for selling my 71E... but I was going overseas and had to make a choice between the 914-6 and the 911E. I'm glad the 911E got a GREAT home. But for me, a "T" car is just as good as an "E".

I will also buy it.
Dont part it out.

Rich

I have a '70 911T that was built up as a track car by the PO.

Long hood cars are sought after, especially if they are the no-sunroof models. If all of the parts are there, it might be worth saving. I wouldn't part it out unless the body was hopeless. These cars weigh less than the safety-bumpers cars, and backdating safety-bumper 911's is much more involved than the 914 backdate (and therefore rarely done). If it's intact, you'll have people lining up for it.

These cars rust out underneath the back seats... the rear windows leak and the buckets catch and hold water. You'll have the normal floor pan issues as you would with a 914, since these were made before Porsche started galvanizing the bodies. The battery boxes are in the front of the car so check out the front trunk.

The engine is going to be a 2.2 with cast iron cylinders and carbs if it's original. Not exactly a powerful motor in stock form. If you're converting a 914/4 to a /6, it's not a great choice of engines as-is, since you can go at least to 2.7 with the case, and you'll probably want to install Nikasil cylinders anyway. I would also upgrade the cams and install Carrera tensioners as part of a rebuild. Transmission should be a 901.

Nice find. Don't part it out. Looks like you have a list of buyers already.

For rust the big killer is the torsion bar tube in the rear of the car. If that's rusted, it's a big deal. Well, all rust is a big deal but be sure to check that as well as the forward rear fenderwells.

Good luck!

Nate

I'd consider giving up my 914 for a repairable LWB long hood 911. I agree with the others... please don't part it if it is not terminal.

Again, please do not part it out. There are several members who would save it and restore it assuming the rust is not throughout the body. If anyone else does not want it I would take it with the understanding it would be restored back to 100%.

I believe you want the later 911 front suspension, the one that has the 3.5 inch lug pattern. Could be wrong so if I am please others chime in to provide the correct information.

Steve Hurt

Just buy it.

'69T will be a 2.0 with a whopping 110 HP

'70T will be a 2.2 with a even better 125 HP

The front suspension points in the pan are bad for rust as well.
If you can check out the engine #'s, these 3 numbers will tell all about the case:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=100507
let me know.

Sounds like I need to have a look and get some photos. Will be next week before I can see it as I am on vacation this week. It $2250 a good price for such a car even with rust issues? I have no basis for value. What would the low side for such a car be assuming it has some rust issues?

I'm no expert, but if it is repairable and complete, I'd guess the low value would be somewhere around $4K. I think $2250 is a steal... depending on the condition. The LWB early cars are the most "desirable" 911s right now.

Yep, what he said - I've never met Todd, but over the last few days I've read much from him that I agree with.

I'd jump on that car in a heartbeat!!

waiting a week to look at a smoking deal usually results in a missed opportunity. pull the trigger and have your friend give the owner a $500 deposit. you can't go wrong with that price.

edit: market update from may 08' Excellence. i'll use the 70'T#s.
so-so $24,404
good $25,473
excellent $34,100

JUMP NOW!



k

2 g for car that don't run, that's crazy. I seen a nice camaro with a V-8 for 2 grand, and it still runs.

Really, this guy is insulting you by asking that much. I'd like to have his number and address so I can go talk to him about how he is trying to rip you off!

All right... I get in line also... ifn you don't want it and the other 50 people in line don't want it... I'll take er

If the buyers happy and the sellers happy it was a good deal all around.That how i look at it regardless of cost.......

I can see that this thread has brought all the "Dark Side Turncoats" to the surface. Elebens are good for conversion parts only.

The consensus on the early 911S registry is that all early 911's are $20000+ cars; purchase price plus repairs to make it whole.

The car is not actively for sale. My friend at work knows the owner and has had a look at the car but is more of a British car guy. The car will keep till I get back in town next week.

All this response for a car with problems. Hmmm, makes me wonder what my '73 CIS T could be worth......

Ah, if only I still had my 69 911S. Yellow/Black Leather, original MFI engine, Power Windows, A/C, Sunroof. Probably would be worth 100k. The guy that bought it totalled it.

T.C.

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I'll take it...in line

Bump - now with photos

Looks awesome!

At least 3000, Pat.

Paul

I'll bite. My god the rust! Parts car. If it was an S, maybe something to salvage, but not a T.

The motor and interior pieces are worth the most.

My sincere and humble .02

What a sad sight.

Just saw the license plate! LOL

914 SD = 914 Six Donor

I'd say that thing's toast. You would definately get your money out of it and then some. It will be a lot of work though.

I've fixed some crazy shit over the years but I don't think I'd touch that one... too far gone.

Sad

Looks like a nice very long term project. I'm very interested. What is the asking price? Still around 2K?

Please PM me if you are planning on passing/buying and flipping.

With the extensive rust at the rear suspension and torsion housing...its not a keeper.

Motor is worth maybe 1k....2k if you get it running perfectly , great leakdown numbers etc...otherwise its just another 6 that need a rebuild.

tranny is worth about 2-300...thats all.
Just sold one for 150....

Seats, 50 bucks each.
Rear seat (got alot of wierd interest...sold for 175)

Rear inner panels have value...hard to ship.

Gauges are always worth something...not alot though.
Dash is probably worth something if its not cracked.
Gas tank , restored, is worth a good bit..

Front suspension is a 914 thing...couple hundred

Overall, Its a 500-1k car imho.

Rich

I got a different number just by looking at the pictures and there's a bunch more:

Steering Wheel - $75.00
Radio - $150.00
Air Cluster - $25.00
Steering Column - $175.00
Shift consoule - $75.00
Handbrake lever - $50.00
Arm rests - $150.00
Door pockets - $150.00
Silver Dot Clock - $75.00
Silver Dot Speedo - $75.00
Silver Dot Tach - $75.00
Silver Dot Oil - $50.00
Silver Dot Fuel - $50.00
Air Conditioning System - $175.00
Door handles - $50.00
Seats - $300.00
AL Carpet Rails - $25.00
Struts - $300.00
A-Arms - $50.00
Swing Arms - $100.00
Front Calipers - $50.00
Rear Calipers - $50.00
Axles - $150.00
911 Tranny (much more valuable now than a 901) - $600.00
Engine - $1,500.00
Seat Belts - $50.00
Rear Seats - $150.00
Interior panels - $300.00
Front Bumper - $150.00
Rear Bumperettes - $200.00
Deco Trim - $100.00
Hood badge - $25.00
Light rings - $10.00
Rear T-Bars - $25.00
Oil tank - $150.00
Steel Wheels (with proper 69 date code) - $400.00
Real 911 Hub caps - $100.00
Talbot Mirrors - $200.00
Total - $6,385.00

Told ya there was more! (I'll stop now but, if everything I've listed when for $.50 on the dollar, he'd double his money)

Steering Wheel - $75.00
Radio - $150.00
Air Cluster - $25.00
Steering Column - $175.00
Shift consoule - $75.00
Handbrake lever - $50.00
Arm rests - $150.00
Door pockets - $150.00
Silver Dot Clock - $75.00
Silver Dot Speedo - $75.00
Silver Dot Tach - $75.00
Silver Dot Oil - $50.00
Silver Dot Fuel - $50.00
Air Conditioning System - $175.00
Door handles - $50.00
Seats - $300.00
AL Carpet Rails - $25.00
Struts - $300.00
A-Arms - $50.00
Swing Arms - $100.00
Front Calipers - $50.00
Rear Calipers - $50.00
Axles - $150.00
911 Tranny (much more valuable now than a 901) - $600.00
Engine - $1,500.00
Seat Belts - $50.00
Rear Seats - $150.00
Interior panels - $300.00
Front Bumper - $150.00
Rear Bumperettes - $200.00
Deco Trim - $100.00
Hood badge - $25.00
Light rings - $10.00
Rear T-Bars - $25.00
Oil tank - $150.00
Steel Wheels - $400.00
Real 911 Hub caps - $100.00
Talbot Mirrors - $200.00
Rear Hubs - $150.00
Tranny Flanges - $100.00
Stub Axles - $50.00
Wiper motor - $50.00
Fuel tank - $150.00
Spare - $100.00
Glove box (dibbs) - $25.00
Striker posts - $25.00
Quarter Windows - $150.00
Side Windows - $50.00
Rear Window - $125.00
Windshield - $150.00
AL Door trim - $100.00
Various dash switches - $25.00
CD Box - $100.00
Engine Board - $35.00
Front Chrome bump stops - $50.00
Rear Chrome bump stops - $50.00
Hood Latches - $25.00
Wiper arms - $20.00
Engine Harness - $50.00
Rear light harnesses - $20.00
Rear light assemblies $100.00
Rear lenses $40.00
Total $8,125.00

I bought a 74 911 in the same condition as this car last year from a estate for $300 last year. I sold the complete car for $6500 as is.