just to have a record on this board, i am in the process of installing driving lights where the fog lights go. i got some well-prepared grills from korjo. the lights mentioned in the attachment, made by Pilot, are indeed available from Auto Zone. About $45. I had the brackets made at a local shop. I'll let you know how it turns out.

http://members.rennlist.com/demick/lights.html

Yeah, I ordered a set from Autozone too. They will go in later today. Craig said they fit in the orginal brackets if you have those.

Geoff

ran out off time sunday. didn't realize i need to take off the front bumper. but the lights and the grills look nice. looks like you need the manufactured bracket so that the lights are out far enough. i used the Pilot bracket to mount the Pilot lights to the manufactured brackets

I got Pilots too:
I mounted them as far out of the grills as I could- which makes mine a paint to aim right, but its close.
Dirty Car.
Bob O

did you have to take off the valence, too? where are the fasteners for that?

Jeff,
I do not think you need to remove the valance to install lights. However, it is attached by 4 (?) screws accessible from inside the spare tire well in the trunk. Also there is a small nut/bolt (or maybe a sheet metal screw) at each end which you get from the fenderwell.

To the guys who have ordered the Pilot driving lights at Autozone, can you get me the part number off the box. Autozone told me today that they dont have the PL-193C and can't get them.

Thanks

If you can't get them from autozone, you can order them from here:

http://store.racerwheel.org/lighting-auxil...-pro-truck.html

Just scroll down until you get to the pl-193c. They are $35. So with shipping they should be about the same as autozone.

Demick

Their ground shipping rate is $18.68. Worse than bloody ebay.

I got them from Ultimate Auto Accesories.com
They were $10 more, but shipping was $13 cheaper.
I'd rather pay a higher legitimate price than outrageous shipping.
PL-193c
And they got here in 3 days I think.

Does anybody make driving light lenses to replace the fog light lenses on the stock lights? I have already installed H3 bulbs and new seals, and my reflectors are in good shape.

I think there were driving light lenses available from Porsche. Maybe only outside US but there was a choice of driving or fog. I have seen two different white lenses for stock lights. In fact I may have some on one of my cars, not sure. Can post a pic if you like.

Does anyone know where I can buy a fog lamp switch. I see in Pelican Parts that they are not availabie. I'd like to use that switch for the driving lights so that i matches the headlamp switch.

I have a extra green fog lite switch laying around.
For Autozone to order the pilots they have to go into the Pilot catalog to look them up. Took awhile for the idiots to do it for me but they figured it out. Its not in the effin computer.

Geoff

Thanks Geoff, I'll tell the autozone guys to look in the freakin pilot book.

let me try this again. i need the green fog light switch. does anyone have one that they are willing to sell? my regular email is jeffreyfort@mac.com. THANKS!

Hey Jeff,

Geoff said he had a green fog light switch available. Did you not see his reply?

Hey Geoff.

If Jeff doesn't want your switch, I'll take it. I found out after stripping my car that it is in fact wired for fogs. Somebody took them all out. I think when it goes back together, I'll install something like these Pilots.

Good morning one and all. For those of you installing Pilot lights, you can mount them using the stock original fog light brackets.
You need to enlarge the holes in the mounting bracket that is already on the Pilot light. Then you can use the stock mounting allen bolt, that means you do not have to remove the front bumper or lower front valance.
Sorry I don't have any pics, I will take some next time I install Pilot lights on one of the cars.
Also for those of you wondering, Porsche did make a clear driving light for the 914.
Check this ebay auction for a set. I had a set in my hand at LA swap meet and asked the seller how much, $550, thanks I set them back down on the table.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2458950890

Also I have a foglight switch for the 914. Let me know if interested.
CCLINLETTHEREBELIGHT

One of you guys (Geoff or Craig) sell me a switch would ya?

Craig,

What happened to you at Dunkel's?

I bought some Allen-type bolts hoping that I wouldn't need to remove the bumper and valence as BOXSTR suggested. Still can't get the round-end Allen key to work. I guess I'll have to remove the bumper and valence after all. Worse, someone out bid me on eBay for the fog lamp switch. Does anyone have one that I could buy?

Anyone know where I can find the round yellow lenses for stock lites?

I think yellow fogs would finish the look.

got the Pilot driving lights installed, finally. did it without removing the bumper or valence. I started a hex (allen) bolt and then slid the mounting bracket (with the bottom cut out) over the bolt. then i was able to tighten it with a balled-end allen wrench. got a fog light switch. now just need to do the wiring. my goal is to have headlights down on the first switch stop. i also want to be able to "flash" the driving lights with the turn signal arm. also installed Hella 7" H4's. that should do it.

I am in the process of doing the same thing, but I found stock lights at the various swap meets (2x at Pomona). I ahve brackets and new seals too.

I need a switch too. Found one that was similar, looks like the rear defrost switch, but it has a long neck and I doubt it will fit.

I believe the car is prewired for the lights, but not sure as I have not looked under the dash yet. I will be checking in a few days.

Does anyone know where the relay for the fog lights is?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe

I have one without the chrome ring if you are interested! PM me!

Jeff

I think the early 911 fog light switch is the same, Ill yank it from my 911 if one of you guys needs it

I wanna make my 911 as light as URY's car

I read through Demicks upgrade and installed the Pilot lights. I used his template for the bracket and made my own brackets. It came out pretty good. The brackets brought the light forward some to almost sit flush with the rear of the foglight grill.

Looks great! I have a set of pilots but haven't made the brackets yet. Dude, ya gotta get some wider tire than those 165's. Yikes!


Geoff

Geoff, I am going to do a five lug conversion, flares and repaint. I will be selling these fuchs to help fund the others, so yes I will be getting rid of the 165's, for some reason the PO liked the 165's.

finally got all the lights the way I want them. Head light switch re-wired so that lamps stay down till the second stop. Amber lights and tail lights come on at the first stop. The Pilot driving lights are wired in using the fog lamp switch and fuse.

If anybody still needs switches, email or PM me. I have many of each...

I know we've discussed this before. How'd you do it? What year is your car anyway (I don't recall, I do remember it's a conversion car right)? I ask because the early cars are different than the later models in this regard.

Jeff's car is a '70 factory six. I know it well. Used to be in my garage. Hope I'm not offending by speaking for him.

That's right! My memory sux.

So the question stands Jeff. How'd you get the headlight switch wired?

I stumbled on the link for the fog version from Autozone...
http://www1.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?...7EPIL%7C%7Etrue

hey dino! do we really want the lights with the blue LED ring around the light? maybe something simpler?

BTW, i really liked the picture of your side scoop. not that i want one, however...

Gint,

Actually, I gathered up the information contained in the attachment and a friend of mine rewired the switch using these instructions. I am not sure exactly what he did, but I assume the instructions were enough for him. I hope they work for you. If you rewire the switch, please post what you did.

I saw that thread. Thanks for posting the info. What version of Word was that file saved as? I'm having some trouble with part of the file here at work. But that's no surprise.

OK, it looks like that doc is a Word 8. Can you do me a favor? I don't have that late a version of Word anywhere. Can you save it and re-attach the file as an older version of Word?

Dino, the light in the link you posted might be too small. The 193 is 4.5" and the 362 is 4".

Mike,

I can't download that file. If you send it to me, I'll upload it again in a earlier version of Word (or maybe a text file).

Then, we can move this thread over to Classics. It's a good one.

-Rusty

Sorry, that link was for the fog version. I dont see the correct light on the AutoZone website. I believe that is why Geoff is saying LOOK IN THE BOOK!

And I am glad you liked the scoop, Shane. It is not hooked up to anything just a hole in the fender!

Done.

I couldn't open that file either. I don't know what the heck it is.

info as a "text only" file

Cool! Thank you!