Porcharu
Aug 21 2009, 05:36 PM
My auto darkening helmet just died and I need a new one. I have been looking for a few years at the nicer ones that have variable darkening. Anyone have a helmet they really like and would recommend to others? After looking around I think I want one that uses a battery plus solar - my eyes hurt right now. The old helmet was about 12 years old so I know they make much better ones these days.
Thanks
Steve
tat2dphreak
Aug 21 2009, 05:42 PM
I have an adjustable Auto Darkening that I got at Harbor freight... I really like it, actually... I know HF makes some crap, but this has been a great Helmet!
tomeric914
Aug 21 2009, 07:39 PM
I LOVE my Jackson EQC from Cyberweld.com. 100% reliable. I've had mine for about 8 years now with no problems. I tried more expensive helmets first and they couldn't touch the EQC.
http://store.cyberweld.com/jaeqcproauda.htmlIncludes free shipping.
jaxdream
Aug 21 2009, 07:44 PM
I got a Hobart from Northern Tool a few months ago , on sale for $79.99 , reg $99.99, thought it was a great deal . All solar powered and such, saw the same helmet at Tractor Supply last week- $59.99 !!!
Pissed me off ,, oh well I really do like my helment , been welding all of 3 months now , gettin better all the time , yeah right !! No sense in giving up , got keep goin if ya want anything.
Jaxdream
aircooledtechguy
Aug 21 2009, 08:04 PM
I recently upgraded my cheap helmet to a Speedglas auto darkening (forget the model off-hand). Got it off Craigslist for cheap. Nothing like a tool that works exactly as it should.
JazonJJordan
Aug 21 2009, 08:18 PM
I second the Harbor Freight, I have found them effective and consistent. I have bought three; nephew, nephew, me.
I haven't had a moment (to compare side by side) with a better brand and would welcome anyone with a comparative reflection.
These were on sale every few months at $49. (currently on sale today-)
They are adjustable and solar only- no battery.
Thanks- jzn
McMark
Aug 21 2009, 08:39 PM
I have the
Optrel Satellite. I used to use the HF helmet. The HF is pretty good and you can't beat it for the price. But going back to the HF temporarily is where I really noticed the difference. The HF is MUCH harder to dial in to a perfect shade. When I was teaching to someone to weld, they had the HF and I couldn't understand why they kept complaining about seeing the melt pool. Then I traded helmets with them, and they got better, and I couldn't see crap.
The downside? It's
almost $400.
TravisNeff
Aug 22 2009, 12:00 AM
I have a couple of HF helmets and they work pretty well (for me), at least compared to an old school non-darkening helmet.
My dad complained about the flash and had a hard time seeing with it, so it probably goes with McMark's statement of a really good helmet.
Porcharu
Aug 22 2009, 01:13 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 21 2009, 07:39 PM)
I have the
Optrel Satellite. I used to use the HF helmet. The HF is pretty good and you can't beat it for the price. But going back to the HF temporarily is where I really noticed the difference. The HF is MUCH harder to dial in to a perfect shade. When I was teaching to someone to weld, they had the HF and I couldn't understand why they kept complaining about seeing the melt pool. Then I traded helmets with them, and they got better, and I couldn't see crap.
The downside? It's
almost $400.
Hmm very nice - I forgot to mention that I wanted to upgrade and not just replace. My old helmet was a pretty good Huntsman unit, but I often find it hard to see the weld and it's too dark when 'off'. That Optrel has some nice features - the ability to read the red leds that the new welders have is pretty nice. I just need a new welder that has leds
I have also been looking at the Miller elite series. Similar to the Optrel but more widely available at a discount.
Steve
scotty b
Aug 22 2009, 05:35 PM
I got a Speedglass and have never wanted anything else
JazonJJordan
Aug 22 2009, 05:57 PM
Point well taken; so goes my neverending list, now a little longer...with another helmet on the Christmas list (sigh)...~you know~ all this expertise and advise is making me poor(!)
but better! Thanks for the helping nudge~ (sigh)
QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 21 2009, 10:39 PM)
I have the
Optrel Satellite. I used to use the HF helmet. The HF is pretty good and you can't beat it for the price. But going back to the HF temporarily is where I really noticed the difference. The HF is MUCH harder to dial in to a perfect shade. When I was teaching to someone to weld, they had the HF and I couldn't understand why they kept complaining about seeing the melt pool. Then I traded helmets with them, and they got better, and I couldn't see crap.
The downside? It's
almost $400.
Porcharu
Aug 23 2009, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(scotty b @ Aug 22 2009, 04:35 PM)
I got a Speedglass and have never wanted anything else
I 'wasted' a lot of time on line yesterday and this seems to be a common opinion of Speedglass helmets - they are the good stuff. I think I am going to spring for the 9100XX, this is the one with the extra big lens and they are all on sale until the end of the year. I hope this helps with the low power tig welding that I have always struggled with because I can barely see the puddle, it also switches to dark 8 times faster than my old one and that can only be a good thing for my eyes.
Steve
aircooledtechguy
Aug 23 2009, 02:24 PM
You will not be disappointed with the quality of a Speedglas no matter what model. I use mine for everything from MIG to TIG. It's like most tool purchases; you don't know just how much better a high quality tool is until your cheap one breaks and you upgrade. Then you wonder how you got by without it for so long.
Porcharu
Aug 24 2009, 02:19 AM
QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Aug 23 2009, 01:24 PM)
You will not be disappointed with the quality of a Speedglas no matter what model. I use mine for everything from MIG to TIG. It's like most tool purchases; you don't know just how much better a high quality tool is until your cheap one breaks and you upgrade. Then you wonder how you got by without it for so long.
I don't doubt this at all. I am way past buying cheap tools - I would rather do without than have some POS that will break when I need it most. I still use a good file to fit tubing because I can't see spending the bucks for a good tube notcher - yet.
Steve - trying to come up with $$$ for a new welding helmet. I am using an old school non auto darkening helmet while my AD helmet is down and it sucks! Makes welding much harder than it should be.
Joe Bob
Aug 24 2009, 02:39 AM
I just got flash blinded by a POS helmet that came with my Hobart. Gave it the float test and bought a Jackson Master Variable EQC.
Worth the $$, I value my eyesite. No deals on eBay....I checked first. $250 locally.
jasons
Aug 31 2009, 01:23 PM
I bought a new helmet this weekend and I thought I might share my experience. I bought a Miller Pro Hobby auto darkening helmet to replace a cheap HF auto darkening. I bought the HF unit a few years ago. Well it appears the battery in the HF helmet went bad. Even though its "solar" I think it still has an internal Li-ion battery. The helmet wouldn't switch on my welding arc any more. The Miller helmet takes a AAA, and is replaceable.
I thought about buying a Speedglas, but after looking at the 9100x its really more helmet than I need. It had lots of features, I just don't need. And, the lower 100 series Speedglas had the internal battery too.
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/weldin...ts/prohobby.php
charliew
Aug 31 2009, 02:07 PM
If you weld two or three times a week and do stick, mig and tig inside and outside you can't spend too much on a welding helmet. I bought one of the first millers about 17 years ago and it's still good but the new ones are much better. I originally bought the jackson to weld the framework of my shop together and it was great for the stick welding outside but after about 7 or eight hours inside with a wirefeed mig on pretty high amps it makes my eyes a little scratchy. On sheetmetal it's ok and on little tig welds it's good but on thicker aluminum with the tig it's also a little too light. It's not adjustable. I think I remember it is a 8 on darkness. I like a big window and it has one. I also have a regular hood that has a magnified lens that I sometimes use on the small tig welds. I guess I need to see whats new.
Gint
Sep 7 2009, 09:07 AM
...another for reference...
Joe Bob
Sep 7 2009, 09:10 AM
How much are your eyes worth?
pilothyer
Sep 7 2009, 12:01 PM
Gotta Put in a plug for the Miller Digital Elite....Jerry
dkos
Sep 7 2009, 09:02 PM
just close your eyes, like those guys on Orange County Choppers!
andys
Sep 8 2009, 11:00 AM
When researching auto darkening helmets a couple of years ago, I found that the HF helmet had one of the fastest reponse times regadless of brand or cost. I bought the HF helemt and all is good so far. Perhaps it won't last as long as some of the others, but at those prices I can afford a replacement.
Andys
McMark
Sep 8 2009, 12:57 PM
Andy, you're completely correct about the cost vs. performance aspect. But as mentioned by a few people, the quality of control with the HF isn't great. I would absolutely recommend the HF to an occasional or beginning welder. But if you're doing a big project, or multiple projects, or you're just looking for something nicer, the HF unit is not the best choice.
jasons
Sep 8 2009, 01:50 PM
My HF was a good intro to auto darkening helmets. But, when it stopped working, I decided to step into something a little nicer (and with a replaceable battery). Even the kid at the welding store who sold me the Miller helmet, used HF helmets. One thing he said, and I agree is the variable setting is not accurate. I think the highest setting is 12 or 13? But, the highest setting on the HF seems more like a 9 or 10 on my Miller.
Another thing he said, I don't know if its true or matters.... The HF helmet is not OSHA approved. I would guess its not ANSI tested. He said you'll be kicked off a jobsite with that helmet. Obviously, that doesn't matter in your garage.
Porcharu
Sep 11 2009, 03:33 PM
Well I pulled the trigger and bought the Speedglas 9100XX (sold some crap on ebay
bought it on Ebay too - $369 + free shipping) I will report on how it works.
Steve
charliew
Sep 12 2009, 08:35 AM
I forgot one thing that showed up while I was welding afterdark outside the other night my unadjustable helmet was way to bright trying to use it in the almost dark condition the other night.
Porcharu
Sep 18 2009, 09:27 PM
I got it today, have not had time to try it out but WOW - it is very nice. I could easily ride a bike with helmet down! Perfect clarity and very comfortable and extremely adjustable - like forward and backward, tilt angle etc. I look forward to using it, unfortunately my argon ran out so I will not be able to test Tig this weekend.
Steve
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