Please - Don't take this too seriously, unlike some other sites !

I take everything seriously!!!!

In fact, I'm in the process of getting extremely pissed off.

I'll get there in a minute or so.

Wait ..... it's coming.









Ah screw it ... to much effort and time to get pissed off.

Nevermind.

i dont mind at all, it usually reminds me of somthing i need to do or need to check on. plus it gives a good dialogue for newcommers who dont quite get it yet.

i actually enjoy responding to things that have happend to me or that i can help prevent.

is this car a porsche or a vw anyway??

LOL, actually the admins on the 'real' porsche ( as distinct from VW wanna be's ) boards are much quicker to tell you to RTFM or search. On the vendor sponsored boards, almost never see it as you would probably go to another vendor.

I find the search engine on the site impossible to find anything with. I used google to search the site and that works alot better.

The search engine here on the site actually works pretty well. You just have to learn the 'tricks' of how to use it. There is a guide now, on the search page, explaining those 'tricks'.

And I actually like that the same question gets asked again. If it's asked a lot, then it's a common question. If it's answered a lot, that means that the search will get filled up with more and more answers for the people who do search, making it easier to find.
So answering the same question over and over is actually helpful in the long run.

Are you implying we'll be here for the "long run"?
Andy

This forum is no different than any other.

If the manual is poorly written or non-existent, RTFM may be the reason they are here.

The search function may not be effective. The less than average user won't know the tricks to finding what they need (or to use the Google advanced search).

...or they are just plain too lazy to do any of the above!

We have a search function here?

I'm amazed how many ( not only newbies ) don't actually have a haynes at least, before they ask the questions -

It's pretty tough to come up with a question that hasn't been answered here over the years, so why bother allowing new posts at all? Just lock the site down and make everyone use the search!

No, it's posts that keep this place alive. It's a forum, a social community. Let it live!

If someone is bothered when someone posts a "same ole question," maybe they should answer and include a link to a search example instead of getting pissy. Then everyone is reminded about search, and the newbies see how to use it.

+1

Andys

I agree we should have a manual and use it. But...

This forum is about 914s. It should be absolutely cool for people to ask questions without referring to the manual first. This is a great resource, and we should encourage people to use it instead of chasing them off to another one. Especially since this place is a community where most of us enjoy talking everything about 914s, even if it's already in the manual.

I think at one time we thought about having tech articles to answer some of the more common questions... tire size, what oil, valve adjustments, etc... some of those were put into the classic threads when it came around. a couple others actually are tech articles now, but there's always questions you feel "are specific to your situation" that in fact, later you seee, the general answer applies too.. besides, every thread seems to make 2-3 tangents, so who cares what the question was to begin with?

If its planning for work to do - I search.

If I am walking in from the garage cussing a blue streak I just ask. By the time I have cooled off and had a beverage (frosty or otherwise) I usually have the info I need to correct what broke.

Zach

My approach exactly !

BTW, I do use the search function, but also bookmark posts that I find very useful currently and possible references for future projects....

I definately like and use the classic section and the tech section.... I try to post my own experiences and hopefully they will be added to the combined knowledge of this BBS/community....

-- Rob

Got some good pics of that avatar girl of yours?

I search , but if I don't find what I'm looking for 3 pages in, I get frustrated and just ask again...

if I find something really good, I bookmark it tho

just google search "stoya doll" you'll like the clips from the movie razordolls, too 1/2 porn half punk music video.

I think it's fun to see how quickly a thread can degenerate, especially if it's a common question. Besides, the 4 vs. 6 consensus could change.

I have the manual, i just figure i will give it my best shot without reading it

that is why i now have 2 engines not running

People who get pissed off too easy piss me off!

Just the tought of it is making me madder.

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how to turbocharge a 1.7

What consensus? They made a bit more than 3000 6 cylinders and over 100,000 4 cylinders. Seems like a slight lead for the 4 cylinders...

Will these wheels fit my car?

with enough money... any will fit

I have no problem with repeat questions. Try teaching the same class for years. Same question - different student. Nothing different here. Someone new to 914s comes along and until they learn their resources they have to ask. A little gentler response might go a long ways... Besides, we all live in a different culture. Some of us are CW's, some autocrossers, some track rats, some just want to street drive the car. Those answers are different much of the time depending on the culture. Open discourse allows the new person and the rest of us to learn something new and see it from the other culture.

I say, ask away...

obviously someone uses the search function, we keep getting old polls come to the top page

I think that even though many posts seem to be the same there are some differences that actually help people look at other areas as well.In other words the end result of fixing a problem might be fixed by doing something totally different from a similar post. Plus it keeps everyone thinking and talking.

Google power rocks...don't kid yourself. Try my signature.

+1 .......... I am a another site where some jerks get extremely mad at newbies for asking a common question ........ I don't see a problem with it because as a few have already mentioned, this is an enthusiasts site and lots of people come on here just to fraternize with fellow 914 fans/owners .....

As someone most likely to ask the dumb newbie question, I find the search function valuable, but very time consuming. As a result, I don't think I've ever asked the dumb newbie question (outside of PMing someone), but I've spent a lot of time searching through discussion threads that turn out to be sometimes useful, sometimes entertaining, sometimes irrelevant and sometimes enlightening but about something else entirely (serendipity can be really handy for those of us who have 914 things about their 914 that they need/want to address).

What I've found visiting this site over the years is that new questions on old topics generally spark a few fresh comments and, just as important, there are often many pointers to the near classic threads that have already hashed over the issues. Those links can be invaluable because they not only tend to answer the question, they also tend to include pointers to still more threads that can elaborate on a topic, or offer more context for the problem solution, or just further educate us newbs. In other words, opening a new thread on an old question can be the best search engine.

Finally, quite often when a new old question is asked, time has provided a different, if not better, answer. It may be that parts, tools or techniques become available that weren't around at the time of the original answer(s) or the collective knowledge has shifted and the answer really has changed. Recommendations about tires, suspension and other performance upgrades, for example, can change over time.

So, I guess my vote is No, allow the unwashed to ask those already answered questions!

How many of those fours have been converted to sixes, compared to the number of sixes converted to fours? Take that!

Very well said. 9 posts in three years. Better watch it, you might get a reputation.

BTW, how about coming out to a Teener Tuesday?

Watch it Marc, Washington State is close enough to Canada that when we go to war with them you will be glowing in the dark too...

Oh yeah? Well, that glow will just make it easier to find the bathroom in the middle of the night.

I'm more annoyed by TLA's and FLA's....only cause I can figure them out half the time

on clubrsx.... it gets annoying because it's the same questions, every day.


here, not as many people, so the questions don't come up as frequently, and yet provide little reminders.

So, it works here, someplace like clubrsx, not so much.

Of course.....doing anything else would be stooopid.....

I love to abuse FNGs....that's why I'm here.

We all wern't born w ith the 914 knowledge we have now. I don't mind reading

something over . As I find most Ques. are from newbes ! How better for them

to aquire the knowledge they need. Remember what it was like to start on the

road of 914 repair when we started. Lighten up !!!! Dave

ah hell I ask noobie questions too, and heaven knows when I started this hobby I knew nada and would have been asking away if I stubled on this site...search..? hell it was all I could do to search for this site (if this had been a site when I had my first questions)

What's the best oil, tires, how much is my car worth, how much will I make if I buy this rusty POS.......4 versus six, why does people think my car is a Fiat?

THOSE questions?

Name withheld as I do not need more I my life.

Maybe this is why they think its a Fiat....

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