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> HID headlights in the pods for Neo914, Pop-up headlights are not in the plans..
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post Jul 21 2005, 01:26 AM
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Maybe Saturn coupes may have been the last to get the word... <!-- emo&:screwy: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)<!-- endemo -->

As I have said before, the "signal" light pods are a unique characteristic of the 914 design. Making them house headlights will give them a higher purpose than signaling and join the modern "smaller" lighting trend. This and using the existing headlight space where the radiators will mount are why I chose this location. Legal? We'll see if they figure it out... <!-- emo&:lol: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)<!-- endemo -->

the "rise and fall" of pop-up headlights:


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post Sep 18 2005, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE (cbenitah @ Sep 15 2005, 11:22 PM)
Just curious if anyone has tried to do this??


There is a kit that makes the whole front end a low down 959/993. It looks really good.

Where? Who? Dunno, seent 2 cars.


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post Sep 18 2005, 01:59 AM
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Felix,
Just curious, in any of the research you did on the headlight laws. Was there anything about the size of the headlight(lens diameter)?
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post Sep 18 2005, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (sj914 @ Sep 17 2005, 11:59 PM)
Felix,
Just curious, in any of the research you did on the headlight laws.  Was there anything about the size of the headlight(lens diameter)?

No, only brightness and vehicle height as listed, if you find more let me know...

Other than some race cars at Sebring these lamps are used in conjunction with other headlights. I believe they are used on some motorcycles as well.

Remil, I am using them as primary headlights but Neo914-6 is a running concept or prototype car.
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post Sep 18 2005, 09:59 AM
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It is probably different between the US and europe, but here the projection of the beam is also prescribed
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post Sep 18 2005, 11:45 AM
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Felix just a thinking but wouldn't you usally be moving when your head lights are on . This may provide some cooling, not sure if it is enough. Think about our engines. Moving=good, sitting = not so good. Just a thought..
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post Sep 18 2005, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (winterkornj @ Sep 18 2005, 09:45 AM)
Felix just a thinking but wouldn't you usally be moving when your head lights are on . This may provide some cooling, not sure if it is enough. Think about our engines. Moving=good, sitting = not so good. Just a thought..

not a bad idea, I could leave vents in the back of the bucket and draw in air from the front somewhere. It's the stop and go city night driving in a warm place like Las Vegas that may heat it up too much. Then I'd just need a temp controlled fan... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post Sep 18 2005, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Sep 18 2005, 07:59 AM)
It is probably different between the US and europe, but here the projection of the beam is also prescribed

I think it's the similar in terms of distance of illumination...
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post Sep 18 2005, 09:36 PM
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Different approach. I've always wanted to revise the pop up headlights so they only open, say 20 degrees, and use small projection fixtures. Never had the time to fool around with it though. Seems like adjusting the pop up mechanism might be easier than moulding new lenses.

Injection moulding tool? Think more on the lines of $25k, unless you go offshore. Of course this would mean a retail price of like $1200 a set, which we know is right inline with our average 914'ers budget (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 18 2005, 11:24 PM
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yeah, I have been planning the same thing Perry. I swear I saw a website probably two years or so ago that advertised that they were in the process of making a kit to do just this, but I haven't been able to locate it for some time now.
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post Sep 18 2005, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (9146986 @ Sep 18 2005, 07:36 PM)
Different approach. I've always wanted to revise the pop up headlights so they only open, say 20 degrees, and use small projection fixtures. Never had the time to fool around with it though. Seems like adjusting the pop up mechanism might be easier than moulding new lenses.

Injection moulding tool? Think more on the lines of $25k, unless you go offshore. Of course this would mean a retail price of like $1200 a set, which we know is right inline with our average 914'ers budget (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Heard that interesting idea a few times over the years but no one want's to invest the R&D...

I'd like to see 968/928 style pop-up lights.

My onshore quotes for IM are much lower than 25k but still a large investment risk.
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post Sep 19 2005, 12:25 AM
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I'd like to see 968/928 style pop-up lights.


Me too. I have thought the same a lot and once asked ages ago in rennlist e-mail list if somebody know anything about that kind of conversion. Nobady answered....
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:11 AM
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How aboot retroing in a set of Gemballa pin lights?


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post Sep 19 2005, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE (redshift @ Sep 19 2005, 12:11 AM)
How aboot retroing in a set of Gemballa pin lights?


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What's up with SoCal club?
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:22 AM
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Held in a pair of lights but determined there would very little room for adjustment and I want to mount a signal light in there instead...


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post Sep 19 2005, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (914Timo @ Sep 18 2005, 10:25 PM)
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I'd like to see 968/928 style pop-up lights.


Me too. I have thought the same a lot and once asked ages ago in rennlist e-mail list if somebody know anything about that kind of conversion. Nobady answered....

In the 80's I saw a 914 in LA that I thought had these lights but when I got closer, he had only made fixed oval lenses and stationary lights underneath...
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (Pnambic @ Sep 19 2005, 06:24 AM)
yeah, I have been planning the same thing Perry. I swear I saw a website probably two years or so ago that advertised that they were in the process of making a kit to do just this, but I haven't been able to locate it for some time now.
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IIRC that was http://www.914turbo.com

There are low pop-up lights available for miata's, corvettes etc.
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:33 AM
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Chris never completed the project as there was no $ interest...

Here's a 90's Miata cup car "option":


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post Sep 19 2005, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE (Neo914-6 @ Sep 19 2005, 04:20 AM)

Got a pic? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

What's up with SoCal club?

That's a graphic I puked for another member... and no.. I don't have any pics, because YOU NEED TO STACK THEM UP!

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Make that work! Make it work, and I'll be your *friend. *(subect to puke graphics on command)

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post Sep 19 2005, 02:41 AM
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lol... imagine what it looks like from the front.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

I love the stacked up look...I wonder if there may be a lense you could use to flush mount them.. or at least kind of..

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OH MY GOD!

http://www.gemballausa.com/CarreraGT.asp


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post Sep 19 2005, 02:53 AM
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Strosek here

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