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Anton
post Jul 3 2003, 02:15 PM
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Rusty, this is exactly the point: they are misleading potential buyers and then play innocent. It is very presumptuous to compare the vehicle in question to a 916, or a 914-6 GT for that matter, as SilverSix has already pointed out. I applaud you for correcting Concoursautos. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Still, one has to admire the time an effort that went into the car. How it was done is a matter of taste (not mine BTW). The car will have an excellent weight to power ratio and should be able to perform outstandingly. Hell, they should have used it in "2 fast 2 furious". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) Anyone seen that movie yet?
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post Jul 3 2003, 02:17 PM
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From the looks of the picture - it's a dealership of 'specialty' cars (looks mostly customs and rods) so you can't fault the seller too much (it's not like he is probably a 914 guy or anything). We just like to nitpick on people who aren't as well versed in what we know (just an opinion here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) ). Imagine if we paid for something with a rare coin of which we had no clue... and the people behind the counter happened to know all about rare coins. I could just imagine their conversation.
As far as the money... As sir Andy said, well we all know we can put a lot in these and get very little return on investment (no one can argue that I've got way too much in mine!). The deal here is that it's a dealership, and they are in it to make money. That's all.
More power to 'em, I say! The worst they can do to us is drive up the prices on these to make ours more valuable (remember, I have a NARP - all you concours enthusiasts bite your tounges!).
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post Jul 3 2003, 02:52 PM
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It's a beautiful car. But I remember back when I first got into 914s. I had no idea what they were about... but I knew mine was cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

If someone had advertised it as a replica of something rare, I would have probably still bought it... but then I would have been mad as hell that I was lied to.

Worse yet, imagine going from a smog state, flying to Florida to buy this "1972" car, and (not knowing any better - that's what eBay is about sometimes), ending up with a 76 that you couldn't register.

Scary.

If they're a specialty/street rod kind of resaler/consignment/dealer... it's their JOB to know.


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post Jul 3 2003, 02:56 PM
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To me the real issue is not whether the car is nice or not (it looks very nice except fo the poorly placed ignition system); the real issue is (1) whether the car is really worth over $30,000 and (2) whether the car has been falsely advertised.

Saying that the seller should not be faulted because the seller is an uneducated dealer of rare automobiles I think, doesn't fly. The seller is a professional organization. They sell cars every day and they do it for a living. They are regulated by standards of professionalism in their state. If they do not know that the car is a GT clone or a 916 clone they should not say that it is. I do not fault the dealer for not knowing as much about 914s as the people on this board but I do fault them for acting like they do know more about 914s then they really do, making false claims, on an overpriced car.

It is not fair to the buyer and may potentially be a crime (although I'm really not sure about that).

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post Jul 3 2003, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mountain914 @ Jul 3 2003, 12:17 PM)
remember, I have a NARP - all you concours enthusiasts bite your tounges!

Non Original Racing Porsche???
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post Jul 3 2003, 03:31 PM
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There's a grill on the front bumper. That looks dumb. Guess whoever made it doesn't like the wonderful world of mid-engined sportscars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 3 2003, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(TVR Enthusiast @ Jul 3 2003, 04:31 PM)
There's a grill on the front bumper. That looks dumb. Guess whoever made it doesn't like the wonderful world of mid-engined sportscars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Uh....that would be for the OIL COOLER...
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post Jul 3 2003, 04:03 PM
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Deflation must be affecting the economy.
I saw the car a few weeks ago on their web site.
Then the price was $39,900 and it cost $100,000 to build.
At least the motor is still a 3.0 and did not shrink to a 2.7
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post Jul 3 2003, 04:18 PM
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Hey! He fixed the ad!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Cool beans... nice to see honest folks on evilBay.

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post Jul 3 2003, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jul 3 2003, 02:18 PM)
Hey!  He fixed the ad!!   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Cool beans... nice to see honest folks on evilBay.

Good to see indeed.

Here's a Question, maybe some of you racer/conversion Guru's out there might know....

What is this Red Knob/Stick there for??

And no I don't mean the heater control one, smartasses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)


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post Jul 3 2003, 04:27 PM
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Geez Rusty!

Every time I correct someone in an ad... they get really nasty! (remember the shift knob crap!)

Too bad Sarasota is 4 hours away... it would be fun to drive that car.

It HAS been for sale for over a year... so the price is too high.

It does look done right (except I think the red and yellow are too much for the engine).

I don't like the white-faced gauges, but then again I'm going to be customizing my gauges too, so I can't gripe too much.

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post Jul 3 2003, 04:31 PM
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What is this Red Knob/Stick there for??


Mark,

That's the hand throttle. It's used in lieu of a choke for cold starts on a 914/6 with carbs.

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post Jul 3 2003, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jul 3 2003, 02:31 PM)
That's the hand throttle.  It's used in lieu of a choke for cold starts on a 914/6 with carbs.


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post Jul 3 2003, 04:35 PM
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Here's a Question, maybe some of you racer/conversion Guru's out there might know....

What is this Red Knob/Stick there for??

It is a controll for the brake proportioning valve.
So you can change the front/rear brake %'s.
Some are dial type. This style has 5 or 7 pre-set positions.
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post Jul 3 2003, 04:37 PM
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Hey Vegas.. is that what it is? Looks like a throttle control to me.

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post Jul 3 2003, 04:40 PM
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I could be wrong.
It sure looks like the Tilton I had in a previous car.


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post Jul 3 2003, 05:02 PM
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I gotta say that is one beautiful 914! I'd love to own it! Of course I probably wouldn't pay that kinda money for one. Then again if I had that kinda money to blow I probably would (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) . Heck I'd pay to see that car in real life let alone drive it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/calvin.gif)
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post Jul 3 2003, 05:09 PM
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On a 914-6 the hand throttle is in front of the stick shift or between the stick shift and the dash.
It's actually a rod that pushed the accelerator pedal.

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post Jul 3 2003, 05:16 PM
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Steve's right... I wasn't looking closely!
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QUOTE(Cdn Teener @ Jul 3 2003, 02:26 PM)
Here's a Question, maybe some of you racer/conversion Guru's out there might know....

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