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> Front Oil Cooler install., a few days of work....
MattR
post Sep 11 2005, 09:56 PM
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Thats baaad

and by baaad, i mean gooood

keep on rockin', son
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post Jun 5 2006, 01:17 PM
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Can I get an update on how this cooler performed? I'm thinking of doing something similar.
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post Jun 5 2006, 02:30 PM
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works fine with no ducting and no exit as of yet...

motor gets to 180 ish....

ill have it ducted and shoruded as of summer...

gonna go ALuminum i think
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post Jun 5 2006, 03:36 PM
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Excellent! Thank you. I was just measuring on my car and I think I am going to have to go with two 8x4 coolers to get around the spare and the AC condensor. Should be about the same surface area as what you have. I'll be able to duct it out the wheel wells if needed.
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post Jun 5 2006, 03:43 PM
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Was currious about the overall height of the cooler and fittings. I have am aftermarket spoiler with a nice opening that I'd like to fit that cooler into. I'm trying to keep the overall height of the cooler with fittings to 6". Do you think that with 90 degree fittings, that it might make it under 6"?

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post Jun 5 2006, 03:47 PM
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with 90's? hmmm i would think it would be a tad too tall. cooler is 4" and the fittings may be taller than 2"......

maybe with the 135 degree fittings.....
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post Jun 5 2006, 05:46 PM
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That cooler is too damn small to be effective on the track Josh. Step up and get a Fluidyne that is the same heigth/length but double the width.

I installed a 13 row Earls in a 914 (in 6 hours the other night) Worked perfect at Buttonwillow with the air temps in the 98deg. range. Kept everything in check. I needed a cooler quickly for this event, so I went against my own "Fluidyne" preaching.

Aaron,

I like the concept of runnin through the rockers, but cutting into the frame rail TWICE is not something I think I would want to do. I ran Birgit's through the heater tube and had it exit out of the factory hole in the frame rail just behind your exit point.


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post Jun 5 2006, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 5 2006, 04:46 PM) *

Aaron,
I like the concept of runnin through the rockers, but cutting into the frame rail TWICE is not something I think I would want to do. I ran Birgit's through the heater tube and had it exit out of the factory hole in the frame rail just behind your exit point.
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Another voice crying in the wilderness....I got 2 AN 12 lines out thru that hole.
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post Jun 5 2006, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 5 2006, 04:46 PM) *

Aaron,

I like the concept of runnin through the rockers, but cutting into the frame rail TWICE is not something I think I would want to do. I ran Birgit's through the heater tube and had it exit out of the factory hole in the frame rail just behind your exit point.


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point undertood. this is how the factory did it tho....

and did you look at the date of this thread?? it has been revived....
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post Jun 5 2006, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 5 2006, 05:38 PM) *


and did you look at the date of this thread?? it has been revived....


Was it revived so's you could be punished?
OR
does that mean it don't count? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 5 2006, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 5 2006, 05:38 PM) *

QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 5 2006, 04:46 PM) *

Aaron,

I like the concept of runnin through the rockers, but cutting into the frame rail TWICE is not something I think I would want to do. I ran Birgit's through the heater tube and had it exit out of the factory hole in the frame rail just behind your exit point.


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point undertood. this is how the factory did it tho....

and did you look at the date of this thread?? it has been revived....


and brad... it only went thru the long once. not TWICE. the front went in from the fender opening, and that put it into the middle of the long.... and thus only came thru the INNER long.....

just as the factory did it.....
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post Jun 5 2006, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 5 2006, 03:46 PM) *

That cooler is too damn small to be effective on the track Josh. Step up and get a Fluidyne that is the same heigth/length but double the width.

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Yeah, I'd go for the fluidyne if I really could. But I'm forced to face a compromise in this. The rules I'm running under do not permit the cutting of sheet metal, nor do they permit ducting air _to_ or _from_ the oil cooler. However, they _do_ allow an oil cooler to be placed _into_ the opening of an air dam, which is unrestricted (the air dam that is). So... the best off-the-shelf option I've found so far is to use the RSR style spoiler that GT racing makes. Only catch is, I have _yet_ to find a relatively thin (earls, setrab, mocal) oil cooler that actually _fits_ in that opening. The only thing I've found that would fit without customizing the spoiler is a cheapo AN6 sized transmission tube-n-fin oil cooler. And that would be almost worse than nothing. Anything thicker than those plate style oil coolers would have no space behind 'em for air flow, rendering that awesome (and expensive) fluidyne useless... So.. back to the compromise...

Any suggestions? I'm open to new ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-Josh2
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post Jun 5 2006, 11:04 PM
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sounds like a seperate thread is in order (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)

here is my idea, modify the GT racing rsr valence so the cooler opening is like 3" further forward then it currently is. thus you have more room in the back, and it might look cool

its just fiberglass!
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post Jun 5 2006, 11:52 PM
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Mount it like the old days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif)
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post Jun 6 2006, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(jhadler @ Jun 5 2006, 10:01 PM) *

Any suggestions? I'm open to new ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
the factory also ran them just mounted under the front bumper (see pic posted above), no cutting, no ducting ...

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post Jun 6 2006, 08:36 AM
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Pick up the finned aluminum tube coolers used in NASCAR. For Auto-x they would work fine.

Other wise mount two coolers behind the bumpers in the opening for the factory foglights and use the delete grills to feed air. Better than nothing.
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QUOTE(Brett W @ Jun 6 2006, 06:36 AM) *

Pick up the finned aluminum tube coolers used in NASCAR. For Auto-x they would work fine.

Other wise mount two coolers behind the bumpers in the opening for the factory foglights and use the delete grills to feed air. Better than nothing.


1) Where would I find one of those coolers? The only tube-n-fin coolers that I've found that fit the existing space are AN-6...

2) If I mount behind behind the grilles, where would the air go? I doubt that much, if any, air would actually flow through there.

-Josh2
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 5 2006, 09:04 PM) *

here is my idea, modify the GT racing rsr valence so the cooler opening is like 3" further forward then it currently is. thus you have more room in the back, and it might look cool

its just fiberglass!


Yeah, that's true. 3" further forward, that sucker would be hanging quite a bit out there. It already has quite a snout as it is.

The reason I want to stay with an off-the-shelf spoiler is that I know that at some point the spoiler will be broken. It's inevitable. So, I wanted to stay away from having to lay custom fiberglass each time, just order a new spoiler. I guess I could make my own mold and fabricate my own spoiler every time, but what a pain.

I guess I'm searching for a non-custom, easilly applied solution. I know, a pipe dream. But one can dream, can't one?

-Josh2
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 5 2006, 10:51 PM) *

QUOTE(jhadler @ Jun 5 2006, 10:01 PM) *

Any suggestions? I'm open to new ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
the factory also ran them just mounted under the front bumper (see pic posted above), no cutting, no ducting ...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Andy


I'm thinkin' more and more about that. But then I'm back to custom made spoilers...

-Josh2
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you're too picky, and it doesnt exist....
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