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new here, car started but is this right? |
sixers34926 |
Feb 27 2010, 11:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
this is probably a dumb question but do the spark plug wires have to be plugged in to the distributor at a certain spot? and if so what would be the order? I'm brand new to the 914. Well actually brand new to all cars the 914 i recently inherited will be my first car!! so any help would be appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Feb 28 2010, 12:12 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,493 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The engine tin is marked next to the cylinders. With the piston #1 at top dead center, remove the dizzy cap and check to see which terminal the rotor is pointing at. That will be your #1 cylinder. Clock wise connect the wires 1-4-3-2.
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
The engine tin is marked next to the cylinders. With the piston #1 at top dead center, remove the dizzy cap and check to see which terminal the rotor is pointing at. That will be your #1 cylinder. Clock wise connect the wires 1-4-3-2. And (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) thanks rick that was much simpler than i expected! will this solve my problem of when i drive it it feels like its studdering when i press on the gas? the wires were definately not in the right places |
bugsy0 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 26-July 06 Member No.: 6,508 Region Association: None |
Nicely explained! the fellers on this forum are very good people - thank you all
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rick 918-S |
Feb 28 2010, 12:26 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,493 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
You may have a wire crossed. There are a lot smarter guys on this forum than I. I just happen to be surfing. Let us know if you get it sorted.
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
You may have a wire crossed. There are a lot smarter guys on this forum than I. I just happen to be surfing. Let us know if you get it sorted. i will update my progress as i go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) thanks rick |
sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 10:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
ok i put the spark plugs in the right place but now the car wont even start. is there a new adjustment i have to make now that the wires are right?
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
anyone have any idea why my car wont start all of a sudden??
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underthetire |
Feb 28 2010, 12:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
My guess is the wires were in the correct spot until you changed them around now your firing order is off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
You need to get #1 at top dead center, both valves for #1 closed, mark on the flywheel lined up in the timing cover, then find where the rotor is pointing and make that wire go to #1 cyl. Then clockwise 4,3,2. |
Chris Hamilton |
Feb 28 2010, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 5,687 |
You might consider getting a shop manual at your local parts store, it will have diagrams of the correct setup and diagnostic procedures. There are many many things that could be wrong here.
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
well before i changed them them they were in the wrong order so i just now put them 1,4,3,2 but now it wont start so something doesn't make sense to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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underthetire |
Feb 28 2010, 12:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
well before i changed them them they were in the wrong order so i just now put them 1,4,3,2 but now it wont start so something doesn't make sense to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) look at my post. You cant just willy nilly put them in the right order. You need to find #1 TDC. If it started before you moved the wires you don't have them in the right spot. You also need to tell us if it's carbed or FI to diagnose running problems, as well as year and engine type or FI type. |
sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
i did find the tdc for #1 when i adjusted the valves so thats were i put the #1 wire and then continued clockwise 4,3,2 My car is a 1973 2.0L d-jet FI. hopefully that helps
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Dr Evil |
Feb 28 2010, 12:47 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Did you move the #1 wire when you re positioned them all? Chances are the #1 wire was in the right place and the others needed to be started from that place. Pictures always help us work more efficiently on your problem.
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Dr Evil |
Feb 28 2010, 12:48 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
Dr evil it did run before i changed them and #1 was in a different spot but it seemed like it hesitated when i pressed the gas when in gear so i did some research and it seemed as if my wires were wrong so i followed direction and find TDC for #1 and then put them in firing order and now it wont start so what should i do i open to any ideas
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sixers34926 |
Feb 28 2010, 12:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 11-February 10 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 11,352 Region Association: None |
i did find the tdc for #1 when i adjusted the valves so thats were i put the #1 wire and then continued clockwise 4,3,2 My car is a 1973 2.0L d-jet FI. hopefully that helps What procedure did you use to adjust the valves? I did exactly as the pelican article said to do |
Dr Evil |
Feb 28 2010, 12:55 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
How did you decide what number each cylinder was? Numbers in the tin?(I am asking simple questions just to get started)
Do you have the manual? It is easier for us to reference pages when describing things. Are you getting spark at the wires? Check this and if not then check to make sure that all wires are connected at: coil, dizzy These are good starting points. |
Dr Evil |
Feb 28 2010, 12:56 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i did find the tdc for #1 when i adjusted the valves so thats were i put the #1 wire and then continued clockwise 4,3,2 My car is a 1973 2.0L d-jet FI. hopefully that helps What procedure did you use to adjust the valves? I did exactly as the pelican article said to do Thats a good reference. |
Dr Evil |
Feb 28 2010, 12:57 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Oh ya, is your dizzy moved so that it is at the correct static timing?
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