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| Scott S |
 Apr 7 2010, 12:11 PM
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Hi All -
Can you mount a type 4 on a standard engine stand yoke - like the usual four arm set-up from places like Harbor Freight? I dont need to do any maintenance, I just want to get it off of the hoist/furniture dolly when the time comes and would rather not drop a pile of cash on another Porsche adapter. Thanks! Scott S (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 7 2010, 12:13 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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I have adapters for $65 shipped. I would not use the 4 points alone on the case. It doesnt spread out the weight well enough.
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| 914rat |
Apr 7 2010, 12:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 3-July 06 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,362 |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Apr 7 2010, 10:13 AM)  I have adapters for $65 shipped. I would not use the 4 points alone on the case. It doesnt spread out the weight well enough. Can you post a pic or send it to my email Mike?Tanks in advance. |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 7 2010, 12:49 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Here is an unfinished one. RJMII will be selling these. I have several that need to be finished. I have not been pushing these as I am getting out of the biz and RJMII will be taking over production of these (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can run a starter with these.
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| EdwardBlume |
Apr 7 2010, 12:51 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Use the right adapter plate... + any engine stand
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| Scott S |
Apr 7 2010, 12:58 PM
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Small Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 633 |
Hi Doc -
I am confused - how does that affix to the engine stand? |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 7 2010, 01:30 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Same way any other adapter does. You have two options, you can use long bolts, or you can cut the mounting arm tubes (from the engine stand) and use shorter bolts. You can mount it on two bolts, or you can remove the studs on the bottom of the case halves and use longer bolts to mount all 4 points. I can also shorten the adapter a bit in the lower section to allow placement of plate steel from the stand. I can see that I need to demonstrate. I need to finish up some stuff, but I will try to get one mocked up tonight. It is far better than the 2 eared VW adapter, but maybe not as good as the $125-200 Porsche adapter.
Porsche one:  VW type:  Notice how both only use two bolts or studs, but how the weight is distributed over more surface area the better and more costly then get. |
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| McMark |
Apr 7 2010, 03:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Whoa! Am I reading this right? You're suggesting this doesn't support enough?
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| 914rat |
Apr 7 2010, 03:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 3-July 06 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,362 |
It is far better than the 2 eared VW adapter, but maybe not as good as the $125-200 Porsche adapter.
Porsche one: VW type: Notice how both only use two bolts or studs, but how the weight is distributed over more surface area the better and more costly then get. The way I read it he is saying the lower one for VW does not but the one you posted does. |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 7 2010, 03:40 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Ya, Monkey boy. Read again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) The quality goes up with the cost. The Porsche one is overkill for a TIV, though.
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| Joe Owensby |
Apr 7 2010, 05:09 PM
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JoeO Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Spartanburg, SC Member No.: 5,385 Region Association: South East States |
Best bet is to use the Porsche stand, or Dr. Evil's tranny mount. However, in a pinch, you can use a modified stand. I welded some supports to the attachment points of a Harbor Freight stand, as shown below. I just welded on the ears, and then ground them down to match the curvature of the case. I think this is at least as strong as the VW type stand. I used this to support the engine via two bolts on one crank half, while I installed crank, etc. and assembled the case halves. I then added the extra support to hold the other side, which can be seen held in place by a clamp. This extra support was plenty strong.
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| r_towle |
Apr 7 2010, 06:04 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,586 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Scott Schroeder @ Apr 7 2010, 02:11 PM) Hi All - Can you mount a type 4 on a standard engine stand yoke - like the usual four arm set-up from places like Harbor Freight? I dont need to do any maintenance, I just want to get it off of the hoist/furniture dolly when the time comes and would rather not drop a pile of cash on another Porsche adapter. Thanks! Scott S (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Yup, it works fine. Take a grinder and cut a notch in the end of each tube about 1/2 way in, about 1/2 inch deep. This makes the bolts line up with the holes. Rich |
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| URY914 |
Apr 7 2010, 06:17 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,010 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I used the cheap VW stand, BUT I used a 2 x 4 under the engine to take the weight off the stand. Seemed to work well.
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| McMark |
Apr 7 2010, 06:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Oh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pinch.gif)
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| TROJANMAN |
Apr 7 2010, 06:49 PM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Scott Schroeder @ Apr 7 2010, 10:11 AM) Hi All - Can you mount a type 4 on a standard engine stand yoke - like the usual four arm set-up from places like Harbor Freight? I dont need to do any maintenance, I just want to get it off of the hoist/furniture dolly when the time comes and would rather not drop a pile of cash on another Porsche adapter. Thanks! Scott S (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Hey Scotty, CHECK OUT THIS THREAD (click) Marc gives a great instructional (with pics) on how to make an adapter plate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i134.photobucket.com-1753-1270688745.1.jpg) You're a little handier than i am , so if you decide to make one, make two (one for me) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 7 2010, 07:36 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I like that one, a lot! Nice. If you can make it for the price he stated, do it. I think I will try to make one like Marc's from my left over cores (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| URY914 |
Apr 7 2010, 07:39 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,010 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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| Gary |
Apr 7 2010, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 7 2010, 02:09 PM) Whoa! Am I reading this right? You're suggesting this doesn't support enough? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1372-1270668618.jpg) Hey Mark, Do you need one of these? I have one that I can throw in the mix. |
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| McMark |
Apr 7 2010, 09:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Sure! I never have enough stands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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| TROJANMAN |
Apr 8 2010, 07:52 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Apr 7 2010, 05:36 PM) I like that one, a lot! Nice. If you can make it for the price he stated, do it. I think I will try to make one like Marc's from my left over cores (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Wasn't trying to cost you a sale with the link. I just thought it was a cool build thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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