 Leaking oil at the curb, How much is too much? |
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| GTeener |
  May 11 2010, 05:24 PM
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914 Girl  Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California  |
OK, so my "bonus" 914 is a stock 2.0 engine. I drove it to work once. Parked it on the street and covered it. It rained a couple days past and I was out of town over the weekend. I took out the trash last night and noticed a dark puddle coming from under the car (rear right side) seeping to the curb. I was warned there were leaky seals but told it was drivable.
So my question is, how much of a leak is too much? Do I just put some 20/50 in every time I go for a drive? I assume the 4-cyl 2.0 engine oil also needs to be checked while the engine is running (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| SLITS |
May 11 2010, 05:31 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
Gwen .... oil is checked, car sitting level, not running. There is no oil tank, just a sump.
What's to much? A drop of oil spreads out pretty far. Leaking seals may be the pushrod tube seals or valve cover gaskets. Put oil in it when it's low and drive it till those items can be replaced. So sayeth Shitzzz. |
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| GTeener |
May 11 2010, 05:41 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ May 11 2010, 04:31 PM)  Gwen .... oil is checked, car sitting level, not running. There is no oil tank, just a sump. What's to much? A drop of oil spreads out pretty far. Leaking seals may be the pushrod tube seals or valve cover gaskets. Put oil in it when it's low and drive it till those items can be replaced. So sayeth Shitzzz. > A drop of oil spreads out pretty far. OK. I'll go with that story (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) > oil is checked, car sitting level, not running. Ah! Not running....not like the 6-cyl. Thanks! 20/50 oil OK? >Leaking seals may be the pushrod tube seals or valve cover gaskets. > Put oil in it when it's low and drive it till those items can be replaced. Approx. how $$ is this kind of repair on average? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| SLITS |
May 11 2010, 05:44 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
20-50 is perfect. If anything but the "approved by World Members" oil, I add sufficient Lucas Oil Additive to get the "good wear additives".
One member had a cut seal on the oil return tube at an event. Everytime she parked it, it would drain about 1/8 quart on the ground. Bought a case of oil from the return home. Just watch your oil level. |
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| GTeener |
May 11 2010, 05:49 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ May 11 2010, 04:44 PM) 20-50 is perfect. If anything but the "approved by World Members" oil, I add sufficient Lucas Oil Additive to get the "good wear additives". One member had a cut seal on the oil return tube at an event. Everytime she parked it, it would drain about 1/8 quart on the ground. Bought a case of oil from the return home. Just watch your oil level. Understood. |
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| sww914 |
May 11 2010, 05:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Rich Towle determined that one pizza box per week's worth of dripping or less was an appropriate amount. He was unclear about what size of pizza or what toppings were included.
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| SLITS |
May 11 2010, 05:55 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Pushrod tube seals and valve cover gaskets wouldn't amount to much ... I forget ... maybe $15.00 total.
What the mechanic charges is another story. Valve cover gaskets are a snap to change. Push rod tubes are a bit time consuming because the rockers have to be removed. Not a hard job at all. |
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| Jeffs9146 |
May 11 2010, 06:06 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Also check your oil sending unit!
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| underthetire |
May 11 2010, 06:57 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Go ahead and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) me but..
My car leaked about 10 drops every time I parked it, so i put some of that high mileage synthetic blend in it. Said it has seal softener in it, i believe them. Down to one drop now, no oil burning to speak of. Worth a shot IMO. And i do recommend doing the valve cover gaskets. Super easy. I silicon the gasket to the cover then put them on. |
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| r_towle |
May 11 2010, 07:35 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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Joke away big guy....
If you put a pizza box under it and it does not last a week without turning into a wet mess that you need a shovel to pick up...you need to fix the leak. Look it up, its in the original italian owners manual Rich Attached image(s) 
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| detoxcowboy |
May 11 2010, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
Curious on the 20/50 weight? I just read the manual and it states 30weight over 32 deg. F 20weight from 5deg.-32deg. and 10 weight under 5deg...
I have been running 30 weight for 2 years, so. cal. w/ no leaks.. is the 50 weight for when you can't fix the leaks? Love the Pizza Box evalution, actually amkes alot of sense in estmation.. |
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| SLITS |
May 11 2010, 07:53 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Multigrade oils supposedly are easier on the engine on a cold start and change viscosity as heat is added.
Do whatever turns your crank ... |
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| Spoke |
May 11 2010, 08:20 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,991 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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Is the car usually parked on a road with a big crown? The original pic looks like it does. If the engine has a leak then parking on a slant may make it leak even more. Maybe the leak is only on the passenger side. Park the other way and it might not leak as much... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
May 12 2010, 05:34 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(detoxcowboy @ May 11 2010, 09:45 PM) Curious on the 20/50 weight? I just read the manual.... That would be the manual written 40 years ago for new cars... If you have a new car and a supply of 40-year-old 30-weight oil - go for it. Today's oil is different, and (probably) your engine has a few miles on it. We must adapt... |
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| detoxcowboy |
May 12 2010, 06:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ May 12 2010, 04:34 AM) QUOTE(detoxcowboy @ May 11 2010, 09:45 PM) Curious on the 20/50 weight? I just read the manual.... That would be the manual written 40 years ago for new cars... If you have a new car and a supply of 40-year-old 30-weight oil - go for it. Today's oil is different, and (probably) your engine has a few miles on it. We must adapt... I guess I should correct myself, I have been using 10/30 w/ no leaks for 2 years daily driver.. You can get straight 30 wt. Brad Penn but I have never used it.. pretty much been using synthetic 10/30 Lucas but have some Brad Penn 10/30 in my garage for the next change. I understand that Oil is debate able subject but did not want to start off over again. Also agree w/ pizza box and "whatever turns your crank", just was trying to make sure I was not causing my self a problem, in addtion I will be in Montana not So. Cal. by winter time and know I should make some changes for the freezing temps.. Thanks for your input. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
May 12 2010, 10:43 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I have a question on the size of pizza box. I always buy extra large pizzas. So is this the right size or are you talking about the personal pizza size (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
I need to plan these things for when I have a four (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| 70_914 |
May 12 2010, 12:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 4-December 09 From: Roy, WA Member No.: 11,096 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(underthetire @ May 11 2010, 05:57 PM) Go ahead and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) me but.. My car leaked about 10 drops every time I parked it, so i put some of that high mileage synthetic blend in it. Said it has seal softener in it, i believe them. Down to one drop now, no oil burning to speak of. Worth a shot IMO. And i do recommend doing the valve cover gaskets. Super easy. I silicon the gasket to the cover then put them on. Seal softener is usually bad. Yes, while you are running the oil it softens the seals. After it wears for a while the seals get hard again, and most times harder than before. Think of the seal softener as kerosene or thinner- it does not last as long in the engine as the base stock of the oil. I would not recommend running a bunch of oil additives or oil with additives already put into it. |
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| Root_Werks |
May 12 2010, 01:33 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(sww914 @ May 11 2010, 04:52 PM) Rich Towle determined that one pizza box per week's worth of dripping or less was an appropriate amount. He was unclear about what size of pizza or what toppings were included. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) So that's what I've been doing wrong. This whole time I've been using a regular cardboard box folded up. Pizza box it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| GTeener |
May 12 2010, 03:52 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Spoke @ May 11 2010, 07:20 PM) Is the car usually parked on a road with a big crown? The original pic looks like it does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I see no crown. But no. This is not a picture of where the car is currently parked. |
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| GTeener |
May 12 2010, 03:56 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 11 2010, 06:35 PM) Joke away big guy.... If you put a pizza box under it and it does not last a week without turning into a wet mess that you need a shovel to pick up...you need to fix the leak. Look it up, its in the original italian owners manual Rich (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) Just got recycled yesterday morning. I'll try a different box flattened. |
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