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> vw vr6 conversion, anyone ever done it?
trent1542
post Sep 29 2010, 05:26 PM
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possible? who's done it? Are the VW VR6's aircooled or watercooled?
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post Sep 29 2010, 05:49 PM
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post Sep 29 2010, 06:25 PM
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I don't know, but a VR6 is a tall engine.
A GM V8 or subi conversion would the way I would go just because others have done it, new conversion parts are readily available and deals on used parts are out there.
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post Sep 29 2010, 06:25 PM
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if so compelled - reinvent the wheel - or - call renegade hybrids and do a small block chevy or subaru.

either will produce a smile or two : ))
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post Sep 29 2010, 06:55 PM
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I went twin turbo mitsubishi... which reminds me, I need to send McMark some more pictures of it.
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:29 PM
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The engine is also quite long, the v6 2.8 is a much better fit
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:32 PM
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I would think the Audi motors may be a good candidate for a 6. I think Felix did one if I recall correctly.
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:49 PM
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I think Felix did one if I recall correctly.


Yeah. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) His is Audi V6 with the Audi/Boxster 5 speed.
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:49 PM
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I would think the Audi motors may be a good candidate for a 6. I think Felix did one if I recall correctly.


If I was blazing trails I'd try a GM Ecotec engine. Lots of go fast parts out there, all aluminum and weighs a mere 250lbs. Many of the beetle baja guys are converting to this engine because it weighs the same as a bug motor.
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:56 PM
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The VR6 is a mess of an engine for this chassis. Don't get me wrong, it's a brute, but fitting it in this car is a hassle. I'm not sure of anyone who makes a bellhousing adapter or the 914 tranny and even if they did, it pushes the limits of what the tranny can take.

Beyond that, it's TALL and LONG because of the intake and the tranny side timing chain.

I'm working on fitting an Audi 12v V6 and tranny right now. Very similar engine, but there's not a lot of tuning options available for it. The nice part is the tranny was made for the engine so that's a no brainer, output flanges that'll fit the axles on the other hand...
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post Sep 29 2010, 09:07 PM
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Can't remember the user name but someone here was putting in a supercharged G60 engine.
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post Sep 29 2010, 11:05 PM
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thanks for the infos guys.. will be sticking with my 1.7 rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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fitting it in this car is a hassle.

but the new vw beetles have room for a 3.2L VR6 with 220 hp???
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post Sep 30 2010, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(trent1542 @ Sep 29 2010, 10:05 PM) *

thanks for the infos guys.. will be sticking with my 1.7 rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 29 2010, 06:56 PM) *

fitting it in this car is a hassle.

but the new vw beetles have room for a 3.2L VR6 with 220 hp???



Yeah, but they have the luxury of stuffin them in with a 15 degree slant and the rear trunk isn't in the way of the transmission end of the head. Besides, the engine compartment on a beatle is quite a bit taller believe it or not.

If you run it at 15 degrees in a teener, you'll corner amazingly to the right, but left handers might get a bit squirrely;)

Don't get me wrong, it'd be an awesome swap especially if you could mate it to an audi transmission. With enough money anything is possible.

BTW, if you pull the smog equiptment off a 12v audi v6 it'll hit 220 as well and comes with a transmission that just fits the engine.
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post Sep 30 2010, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(championgt1 @ Sep 29 2010, 08:07 PM) *

Can't remember the user name but someone here was putting in a supercharged G60 engine.


I did a similar swap years ago. Low compression 8v block with a turbo. If you fab your own coolant flange on the tranny side, you don't even have to cut the stock sheet metal on the car.

I've still got the Kennedy kit from that one sitting in the garage if anyone is interested...
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post Sep 30 2010, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Sep 29 2010, 06:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Sep 29 2010, 09:32 PM) *

I would think the Audi motors may be a good candidate for a 6. I think Felix did one if I recall correctly.


If I was blazing trails I'd try a GM Ecotec engine. Lots of go fast parts out there, all aluminum and weighs a mere 250lbs. Many of the beetle baja guys are converting to this engine because it weighs the same as a bug motor.

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And they can produce 300+hp without turbos. Neighbor works for Cheby, says those motors are really tough little bastards to. GM has an entire catalog for upgrades, including the supercharged Cobalt version.
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post Sep 30 2010, 06:51 PM
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VR6, heavy bulk POS. Why would anyone use a VW engine for anything but scrap and to weigh down the dead bodies. There are millions of better options out there. The Suby is perfect. The chevy is cheap, but the VW is a waste of time. They are junk.
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post Sep 30 2010, 06:55 PM
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VR6, heavy bulk POS. Why would anyone use a VW engine for anything but scrap and to weigh down the dead bodies. There are millions of better options out there. The Suby is perfect. The chevy is cheap, but the VW is a waste of time. They are junk.

Are you saying the 1.7, 1.8, and 2.0 engines are vw crap too??
I think they are cool! I am sticking with my 1.7!
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:06 PM
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Wow brett, Not a lot of happy thoughts about VW eh?
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post Sep 30 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(trent1542 @ Sep 29 2010, 10:05 PM) *

thanks for the infos guys.. will be sticking with my 1.7 rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 29 2010, 06:56 PM) *

fitting it in this car is a hassle.

but the new vw beetles have room for a 3.2L VR6 with 220 hp???


Looked at all the spare room in one of those lately? Makes the insides of a full 12 pack look roomy.

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post Sep 30 2010, 09:42 PM
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Mueller tired it a few years ago. Search for it on here, I remember a build thread. It created a lot of problems from what I remember seeing. It was the wrong size and orrintation mostly. He had great pic's. I don't think it was ever finished.
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