Value estimate for 964 motor, Looking to buy a 3.6 motor |
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Value estimate for 964 motor, Looking to buy a 3.6 motor |
Cupomeat |
Oct 28 2010, 02:35 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Guys and Ladies,
What is a fair price for a 1993 3.6l 964 based motor with harness and ECU. The donor car had 82k miles with many of them being DE track based. I do know (not well) the previous owner, who had an incident at WG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) The engine has good leak down numbers and ran strong before the business with the blue dragon. I was thinking $5500 but the internet sales numbers are ALL OVER THE BOARD ($4k-$8k) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) so I thought I'd raise it up here. I appreciate the input. |
JmuRiz |
Oct 28 2010, 02:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,433 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'd say way more than $5000...I was thinking it'd be in the $8k range.
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Cupomeat |
Oct 28 2010, 03:09 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Not for anything but 90s 964s with around 100k miles can be had for under $20k, even $15k. That being said, is the engine worth half of the car's value?
It sure might be, just asking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) |
mepstein |
Oct 28 2010, 03:21 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Go on Pelican and review past sales. They vary with milage and maintanance records but I've seen 5-10K available.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 28 2010, 03:32 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
To rebuild the engine you will be paying WAY more than that. So I would say if the leakdown numbers are okay an 82k mile engine should be had for 5k-7k. I'd offer 5 and see what he says. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Oct 28 2010, 03:34 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
for $9500 you can have a 2,7 ;-)
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mepstein |
Oct 28 2010, 03:57 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
there's a 2.7 on pelican for 2500 but these engines are like our cars, it's easy to put much more into a rebuild than they are worth on the open market.
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ArtechnikA |
Oct 28 2010, 07:57 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
there's a 2.7 on pelican for 2500 but these engines are like our cars, it's easy to put much more into a rebuild than they are worth on the open market. T'was more a commentary on some of the recent 'for sale' threads. The widespread availability of 3,2's and 3,6's in this price range is one reason a 2,7 - no matter how nice - is a hard sell in the $10k range... |
J P Stein |
Oct 28 2010, 08:26 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I'd say you're pretty close....maybe a bit high. If it can't be heard/seen running & driving, it's a core motor. Tough market out there.
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PRS914-6 |
Oct 28 2010, 11:38 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
The engine will need a valve job. The guides are a weak spot on the 3.6. I would get a 95 engine. It's worth a little more. You get the last year of OBD1 and the first year of hydraulic lifters.
The engine in question is worth about $6500 |
ME733 |
Oct 29 2010, 04:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
....Unless the engine is in a car and you can see it run, hear it run, check the oil pressure, get it warmed up,listen for "funny noises" with a expert mechanic with you.....Assume it will need to be rebuilt., and pay accordingly...5000.00 is top dollar in my opinion, for a rebuildable core.with everything there.
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Cupomeat |
Nov 1 2010, 08:27 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks everyone!
I know the previous owner and have some history on the engine, I'll stick with $5k and if he bites, so be it. Good info on the 964 valve guides, I have read that before. Also, I agree with the 95 993 motor, a great motor!! |
r_towle |
Nov 1 2010, 09:34 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Sorry your friend hit a wall...that sucks.
start at 4500... There are more than a few for sale right now...and there are always deals out there. You might be surprised that you can get a 964 for 10-14k right now...especially if its tiptronic. I would be interested in this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-Cay...=item483ca06d7d rich |
r_towle |
Nov 1 2010, 09:50 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Eric.
Think hard about going for this instead. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html rich |
EdwardBlume |
Nov 2 2010, 07:59 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Isn't there a difference between early 964 and late 964 motors?
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Cupomeat |
Nov 2 2010, 08:43 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Rob, I am not aware of the change in the 964 motors and the red book doesn't show a difference in US engines. Maybe it has it wrong?
Thanks to you all for your musings and info on this subject. This motor swap is intended for a 914, NO REALLY, and hopefully a clear course of action comes along soon. |
Cupomeat |
Nov 2 2010, 08:44 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Eric. Think hard about going for this instead. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html rich DAMN, that would be a serious motor in a 914... |
Spoke |
Nov 2 2010, 08:51 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,986 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Eric. Think hard about going for this instead. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html rich This would be one hell of an engine in the 914. Same year as my 911 turbo rated at 282HP. 4 speed tranny has heavier gears to handle the higher HP. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 2 2010, 08:56 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
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EdwardBlume |
Nov 2 2010, 10:34 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
OK, it was the no head gaskets thing I was trying to remember.... supposedly, the 964 engine problems and the recession could have tanked Porsche for good, but the 993 and Boxster pulled them out...
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