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> Sunvisor recovering group buy will need your cores, This will include a mirror installed like OEM
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post Dec 8 2010, 02:20 AM
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There seems to be enough interest to put this together. I have an upholsty guy that that can redo the visors, but need cores to refurbish. Originally I was planning to make the internal structure, but it would save some time and effort (as well as cash) to just use the old substructure.

You would be looking at a high quality vinyl that would be stitched on the edges. I know the OEM was thermally bonded, but the cost to set up and do that would double the cost at less that 100 sets. So, they're not exactly like OEM, but they will have the mirror sewn in like the OEM.

I'm working on the sample with the mirror, and will have it in a few weeks.

I will also make new visor clips available if you wish for $50 a set of all 3. These are the ones with the stainless pins. This will be only to those that are in on the visor refurb deal.

Just chime in on the thread here to get yourself on the list. As soon as it looks like we've got the 20 sets, I'll send the details.

Thanks, I need to do a set myself, so this will help me too.

Here's is a picture of a protype.


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post Dec 8 2010, 02:30 AM
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These look great, I have a question that doesn't matter to me so much but here goes. On the OEM there was a sewn and velcro-ed flap I believe over the mirror, Was it your intent to replicate that also? Can there be a package that includes all new mounts, clips and hardware?
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post Dec 8 2010, 02:30 AM
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I can't send cores till after the holidays. Hopefully I can still get in on this?
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post Dec 8 2010, 06:22 AM
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I'm in for a pair. Just need to know where to send the cores & $$$.

If I may, I would like throw something in here. I was wondering just how hard it would be to make ones that swivel like todays cars? I'm vertical challenged so there are times when driving the sun gets my eyes thru the side window. I know its not stock, but then again my 914 is a mix of stock & non.
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post Dec 8 2010, 07:44 AM
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I would like a set and can send my cores whenever you are ready. The mirror isn't very important to me and if there's any issue recreating a flap that will stay closed over the years I could do without the mirror.

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post Dec 8 2010, 07:45 AM
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Mark,

This is good news. I am in for a pair and can send my cores. And if you offer the mounting clips and pins as part of the package, then I am in for those as well. I know you currently have the clips and pins on your site.

Were all visors the same for the various years production? I have a 76 and would not want to get my cores mixed up with an early model's cores if they are different.
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post Dec 8 2010, 08:02 AM
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I'm tall enough I just use the windshield header for my visor, but that reminds me of another product idea that should be cheap and easy: visor hole blanking plates.

Basically a moulded bit of a plastic that covers up where the visors mounted. I had these on my old Miata. Keeps the vinyls from getting tatty and looks better.
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:19 AM
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Well there's something I don't need but desperately want! I'm in! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Are you going to put the insurance/registration pouch on the drivers side?
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:30 AM
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I'm in for a set with clips. Tell us where to send the cores. They should fit in one of the USPS flat rate boxes and then you could use that box for the return????

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post Dec 8 2010, 10:39 AM
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Is a core the metal inside frame?
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post Dec 8 2010, 12:23 PM
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I think if you are going to do a group buy you might check with Vinyl Specialties. They have done 3 sets for me at $55.00 and they were perfect. I'm sure if you sent them a shit load they would reduce the price. Their Web Site
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post Dec 8 2010, 12:26 PM
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Mark - any chance of a later group buy or order as needed - with the thermal-bonded seams recovering per OEM, & with mirror/flap at R & map packet @ L for us anal-wanks? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

That vinyl looks pretty close to original for the pix BTW - good job! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 8 2010, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Dec 8 2010, 10:23 AM) *

I think if you are going to do a group buy you might check with Vinyl Specialties. They have done 3 sets for me at $55.00 and they were perfect. I'm sure if you sent them a shit load they would reduce the price. Their Web Site


Looks like they also stitch - not thermal-weld, & according to the 911 visor example for $65, can't reinstall your vanity mirror.

.... and you know how vain those 911 types are! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So IMHO, Mikey914's group buy with the mirror included is probably worth the extra $20-30 (depending upon whether the 914 ones at the above link is still $55, or up to the $65 of the 911 flavor).
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post Dec 8 2010, 12:50 PM
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I'm in, just let me know when and where to send the cores.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:25 PM
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I looked into vinyl thermal bonding last year. The set up on the machine was over $500 before 1 was produced, and they didn't really want to tie up the machine unless we considered running less than 100 units. (a local DFW shop)

I'm not an expert on this process but as explained, this is some kind of stamping process...build the mold...inset the material...stamp it out - as I was told.

Any thermal bonding experts out here?

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I think if you are going to do a group buy you might check with Vinyl Specialties. They have done 3 sets for me at $55.00 and they were perfect. I'm sure if you sent them a shit load they would reduce the price. Their Web Site


This place also sells the pivoting mounts to turn the visor to the side.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:42 PM
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I had looked into the thermal bonding also, Basically, dies are created to do the bonding, that's the expense. The $500 was better that the final price I was lookibng at. There were several ops, and the $500 probably only coverd the edges.

Also the numbers we are looking at from Vinly specialties do not include the mirror, and the mirror they have screws onto the substructure. This will not work for our visors. The have to be sewn in (or thermally bonded, secondary operation more$$$). This normally cracks the mirror. I will be doing a test part in the next 2 weeks to assure I have this under control, but I'm 99% sure it will not be a problem the way I plan to do it.
As far as the deletes and the pivots go, there's probably not enough demand to fabricate these, but I suspect there are other ones that could be modified for both applications.
The only issue I could see on the pivots is the mounting. There needs to be enough substructure to support the loads of pivoting (and if you want them to sty in place you'll have to crank them down a bit), and vibration that the original would have never encountered.
Maybe not an issue but worth looking into before going that route.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Dec 8 2010, 10:26 AM) *

Mark - any chance of a later group buy or order as needed - with the thermal-bonded seams recovering per OEM, & with mirror/flap at R & map packet @ L for us anal-wanks? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

That vinyl looks pretty close to original for the pix BTW - good job! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Allways a possibility, just a matter of demand and at what cost?
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We have a box of cores here if you need some.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(geniusanthony @ Dec 8 2010, 12:30 AM) *

I can't send cores till after the holidays. Hopefully I can still get in on this?

Yes, that's probably about the time frame this will come together.
as soon as we get 20 confirmed, I'll send out the info.
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