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Torsion bars, L & R... |
si2t3m |
Apr 18 2003, 01:10 PM
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914 addict Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Qc, Canada Member No.: 119 |
Ok you can laught...
Can't figure out Left from Right!!! They should change this for Passenger and Driver. So is left the drivers side (like when sitting in the car) or is left the passengers side (like when looking at the car from the front). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) Marc-André |
Zeke |
Apr 18 2003, 01:16 PM
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Never left, but not right.... Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 26-January 03 From: Long Beach CA Member No.: 197 Region Association: None |
Left is driver's side on all applications.
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si2t3m |
Apr 18 2003, 01:20 PM
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914 addict Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Qc, Canada Member No.: 119 |
Thanks!
I'll try to remember it from now. I'll stop writing P & D on my winter tires! Marc-André |
jonwatts |
Apr 18 2003, 01:23 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
Dummer question. Why does it matter? Are the torsion bars pre-stressed in a certain direction? Does this apply to new T-bars as well as used ones?
Function #48 of this BBS: Brings people who think they know it all back down to earth. |
airsix |
Apr 18 2003, 01:57 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(si2t3m @ Apr 18 2003, 11:20 AM) Thanks! I'll try to remember it from now. I'll stop writing P & D on my winter tires! Marc-André Just remember that it's always "The car's left" or "The car's right". When someone writes instructions they don't know where YOU are going to be standing when you read them. But the car's right and the car's left will be the same regardless of whether you are in back, in front, on top, or bass ackwards underneath. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -Ben M. |
ArtechnikA |
Apr 18 2003, 02:36 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(airsix @ Apr 18 2003, 11:57 AM) QUOTE(si2t3m @ Apr 18 2003, 11:20 AM) I'll stop writing P & D on my winter tires! Marc-André Just remember that it's always "The car's left" or "The car's right". When someone writes instructions they don't know where YOU are going to be standing -Ben M. besides which, remembering by 'driver' and 'passenger' is just a recipe for disaster if you get into a right-hand drive car ... |
brant |
Apr 18 2003, 03:02 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The torsion bars aren't pre-stressed. (at least as far as I know)...
but they become stressed-set from twisting one way in use. I don't think for a brand new pair, it matters which is where... but if you ever take them out you are supposed to install them only in the same position as they were "broke in" brant |
Zeke |
Apr 18 2003, 03:25 PM
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Never left, but not right.... Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 26-January 03 From: Long Beach CA Member No.: 197 Region Association: None |
A few months ago on Pelican 911, it was decided that the left hand was slightly higher rated for the driver's weight being a constant while the P side varied. I don't know. But I have read that new aftermarket bars are equal. I haven't heard about reinstalling aftermarket bars in the same location.
BTW, IIRC, it was not decided which direction was correct for the stamping, forward or aft. This will have to be noted if you are to keep the rotation of stress the same as with the new bars. |
brant |
Apr 18 2003, 03:58 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Its always been my understanding that you could install an aftermarket (new) bar with the stamping either way... as long as you made sure you replace it in the same orientation if its ever pulled....
When I've bought used bars in the past, I always asked the owner to indicate the direction they had been installed. I don't think it matters if the stamping is forward/back, as long as you follow the same direction it was broke in. I've always just installed new bars R/L with the stamping forward. brant |
anthony |
Apr 18 2003, 04:37 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
QUOTE I don't think it matters if the stamping is forward/back, as long as you follow the same direction it was broke in. It seems that if you respect the L/R designation, it shouldn't matter whether the stamp is installed in the front or the rear because either way the bar is still twisting in the same direction. Am I visualizing that correctly? |
airsix |
Apr 18 2003, 04:54 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(anthony @ Apr 18 2003, 02:37 PM) QUOTE I don't think it matters if the stamping is forward/back, as long as you follow the same direction it was broke in. It seems that if you respect the L/R designation, it shouldn't matter whether the stamp is installed in the front or the rear because either way the bar is still twisting in the same direction. Am I visualizing that correctly? Yes, you are visualizing correctly. -Ben M. ps - I put them in with the stamping at the rear...so you can SEE it. |
mskala |
Apr 18 2003, 06:19 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Zeke @ Apr 18 2003, 04:25 PM) A few months ago on Pelican 911, it was decided that the left hand was slightly higher rated for the driver's weight being a constant while the P side varied. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) I bet that debate has as much serious information as the classic 'cold glass flows cause old windows are thicker at the bottom' argument. Mark S. '70 914-6 |
Zeke |
Apr 18 2003, 07:43 PM
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Never left, but not right.... Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 26-January 03 From: Long Beach CA Member No.: 197 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(airsix @ Apr 18 2003, 02:54 PM) QUOTE(anthony @ Apr 18 2003, 02:37 PM) QUOTE I don't think it matters if the stamping is forward/back, as long as you follow the same direction it was broke in. It seems that if you respect the L/R designation, it shouldn't matter whether the stamp is installed in the front or the rear because either way the bar is still twisting in the same direction. Am I visualizing that correctly? Yes, you are visualizing correctly. -Ben M. ps - I put them in with the stamping at the rear...so you can SEE it. Thank you for that. I realize now that the rotation is the same as long as the side is remembered. My mistake. QUOTE When I've bought used bars in the past, I always asked the owner to indicate the direction they had been installed. So left is left and right is right, stick 'em in. Takes a little of the fear out of buying used bars as long as you know the side it came out of.I don't think it matters if the stamping is forward/back, as long as you follow the same direction it was broke in. QUOTE I bet that debate has as much serious information as the classic 'cold glass flows cause old windows are thicker at the bottom' argument. There are some pretty knowledgeable hombres over there. If you think its a hollow (pun intended) argument, bring it up over there and then try your statement. I'll watch from here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) |
mskala |
Apr 19 2003, 05:41 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Zeke @ Apr 18 2003, 08:43 PM) QUOTE I bet that debate has as much serious information as the classic 'cold glass flows cause old windows are thicker at the bottom' argument. There are some pretty knowledgeable hombres over there. If you think its a hollow (pun intended) argument, bring it up over there and then try your statement. I'll watch from here. Would like to see that, but can't find the thread. Mark S. |
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