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Do these Suck ? |
MarkV |
Apr 22 2003, 05:50 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
Anybody have any experience w/ these?
96's on E-bay I have 5,000 miles on a rebuild: web cam & lifters, guides & valves, bearings. Original P&C's looked good so they were honed & re-ringed. The rings will not seat. The car smokes & uses a quart of oil w/ a tank of gas. I have to take it apart and replace the P&C's and don't want to use anything that is of questionable quality. Maybe better off just ordering a set of flattop German 94's. Seems like there aren't many choices for P&C's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 22 2003, 05:52 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Mueller has them in his new engine.
They are sold by a company here in SanFran. I know a lot of engine builders that use P+C's from the manufacturing company with very good luck. The price is decent.. but let Mueller give you the contact info for the people directly. B |
MarkV |
Apr 22 2003, 11:10 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
I asked the seller where they are made.
Same country that Kieth Black,Federal Mogaul and more are made,China. I guess not much comes from good old USA anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 22 2003, 11:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I knew they where Chinese. Mueller had a problem with a broken fin when his arrived and they replaced it without much hassle if I recall correctly.
Several BIG TIME engine builders in LA use these P+C's. B |
ChrisReale |
Apr 22 2003, 11:19 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Shit, Chinese pistons? Any feedback on durability? I know some Mahle's are made in Brazil, and the rev-limiting rotor I just bought (Bosch) was made in Spain...what happened to German made? I know, too expensive...labor costs
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Brad Roberts |
Apr 22 2003, 11:24 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
They have been selling these for at least 10 years if not more. If there was a big problem we would have already heard about it. Almost every single rebuilt VW Type1 engine and Type4 engine coming out of the big name rebuilders....uses these P+C's.
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airsix |
Apr 23 2003, 12:22 AM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(MarkV @ Apr 22 2003, 09:10 PM) I guess not much comes from good old USA anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Oh I don't know. Sadam and Co. are familliar with some of our top-of-the-line products from companies like General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin Aerospace, Boeing Aircraft/McDonnell Aircraft and Missile Systems, and Raytheon Corp. to name just a few. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -Ben M. |
MarkV |
Apr 23 2003, 12:32 AM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
Ben,
I stand corrected. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Not very many low-tech cast iron automotive parts are made in the good old USA anymore. LOL |
silver six |
Apr 23 2003, 12:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 3-February 03 From: San Bruno, California Member No.: 227 |
QUOTE(airsix @ Apr 22 2003, 10:22 PM) Sadam and Co. are familliar with some of our top-of-the-line products from companies like General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin Aerospace, Boeing Aircraft/McDonnell Aircraft and Missile Systems, and Raytheon Corp. to name just a few. Great. So the rest of the world makes car parts and we make machines that kill people. Not something to brag about. The Lone Liberal, Douglas |
Mueller |
Apr 23 2003, 01:06 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Mark,
AA Automotive Products. (415) 752-2075, 450 2nd Ave, San Francisco, CA 94118 |
need4speed |
Apr 23 2003, 01:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 11-April 03 From: Arroyo Grande, CA Member No.: 564 |
QUOTE(airsix @ Apr 22 2003, 10:22 PM) Oh I don't know. Sadam and Co. are familliar with some of our top-of-the-line products from companies like General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin Aerospace, Boeing Aircraft/McDonnell Aircraft and Missile Systems, and Raytheon Corp. to name just a few. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -Ben M. Yay Lockheed! JDAMs don't kill people. People kill people. (not the weapon manufacturer's fault that their products are used irresponsibly. I'm all for licensing and background checks for thes idiot politicians) |
Bleyseng |
Apr 23 2003, 01:18 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
No, there is Andy and myself on the BBS. Long as you don't start talking crap like Alfred/Jeff you will be fine here.
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seanery |
Apr 23 2003, 01:33 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I think I hear a heart bleeding somewhere....
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Eddie Williams |
Apr 23 2003, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Nederland, TX Member No.: 55 Region Association: None |
If you listen to some liberals, cars and their associated parts are just as bad as bombs, as far as being people killing machines. And a danger to the environment as well.
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J P Stein |
Apr 23 2003, 01:47 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
The Japanese and the Germans both complained that the US fought a "richmans war" in WWII. Heavy on firepower, low on casualities. Our troops like it....oh, I forget, liberals don't become "troops".
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MarkV |
Apr 23 2003, 02:47 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
So Mueller,
I called AA Automotive products. They must be the importer, kind of hard to understand over the phone. Flattop 96's are $349; flattop 94's are $249. Price seems really cheap. Did you go w/ the 96's or 94’s? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
Mueller |
Apr 23 2003, 02:52 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I should have warned you on that...english is a second language (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I have the 94's since the car was going to be a BP car...no longer, the rule book will now put me in some crazy @ss X or Z class with fire breathing monsters....should be fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) |
MarkV |
Apr 23 2003, 03:01 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
I think I am going to call him back and order the 94's. Should be interesting trying to give him credit card & address. English is definitely second language. Thanks
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my15window |
Apr 23 2003, 06:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 23-March 03 From: fort collins Co. Member No.: 465 |
Ive been trying to get ahold of this guy for 2 months,, his add says he has 103s for 449$ I hear they are ching shin brand demlillo machine is building my motor and says he's had peoples motors time bomb with these. has any one used the 103s? and do they last?
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MarkV |
Apr 23 2003, 06:56 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
15 Window,
I called & he answered the phone. Where did you see an ad ? Aren't 103's kind the definition of a time bomb? Or at least a 25,000 mile time bomb. |
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