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> EMS Testing, Round #two!, Kit Carlson is back for big HP!
Jake Raby
post Jul 26 2004, 04:53 PM
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Hey guys... Dave just showed back up for round #2 of testing his EMS... We'll be testing it on the same engine as before with his new changes made to the system...

While he is here we are also going to do an install of his system on my 912E, so we can get some real time miles on the system. I have driven my 912E almost 60K miles in 22 months and its my full time car seeing long distance runs to go see my girlfriend a few times a week..

By the end of this week, we'll know all the details about the system, both real time driving as well as dyno data against carbs.

I have a very special visitor stopping by the shop on Wednesday to do a feature on some of my new stuff... It'll be hitting a publication that we all know and love in just a few months (blew me away when they recognized my efforts), who knows he might even get some pics of Dave's system in there!!

We'll keep you updated on what the EMS is doing all week as we progress!
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post Jul 26 2004, 06:40 PM
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post Jul 26 2004, 06:41 PM
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post Jul 26 2004, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 26 2004, 04:41 PM)
Well, you know what I mean.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/monkeydance.gif)

I don't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:19 PM
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Its a certain magazine that the 914 loves to get exposure from...

The type 4 is finally getting some!
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:21 PM
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ps...is ps coming?
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:23 PM
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:25 PM
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We all know and love? You mean Playboy? Is this where the famous "ebay chick" with 914 pictures were sent to? Guess I'm going to have to renew my subscription...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:56 PM
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uhh... pardon me..... is this where the line is for that Kit Karlson kick ass EMS system?

Do I need to take a number?

Is there a place on ebay where I can bid on a place in line? Should I start one?

Do you take Paypal?

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Really.. I want one yesterday
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post Jul 26 2004, 07:59 PM
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Dave is working out the manufacturing tid bits now to have the boards and etc made.

I will be making complete kits with injectors and etc pretuned for the larger engines.

As for the line, its already pretty long..
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post Jul 26 2004, 10:44 PM
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Jake, You and Dave seem like a great fit! I'm looking forward to reading about the new dyno runs. Sounds like the system will launch the type IV into the next century. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Jul 26 2004, 11:15 PM
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The EMS, coupled with the roller cams, new rockers that Charles and I have in the works, and my new heads are the next leap in TIV development..

If my plots are correct, based on my newest head flow numbers we should achieve a tad over 270BHP from my 3.0 engine with only 10:1 static CR... Thats a full street engine, and it doesn't even have the roller cam mods yet!
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post Jul 27 2004, 05:42 AM
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Hey Jake, what did/are you guys doing for induction?

Something like TWM throttle bodies on short manifolds?

Can you take a couple of pictures of the set up??

THanks, herb
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post Jul 27 2004, 08:28 AM
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A ton of pics will be on my site under research and development in a couple of days..

My 912 is using a stock 912E plenum and throttle body. The 2563 is an upright and uses Jenvey throttle bodies and Ford 2300T Fuel injectors.

I will be making and selling complete, 100% correctly designed kits based from Dave's electronics. These will be available complete or as an option on my engines.
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post Jul 27 2004, 09:22 AM
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I re-wired the system to move the EMS away from the engine. It looks much better.

Now ready to download the latest code.

We are waiting fuel hose fittings and braided hose for the fuel system. With luck, the parts should be in before noon.
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post Jul 27 2004, 09:30 AM
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Great!!! I am awaiting the results!! Waiting for updates will give me something to look forward to and keep me going through today's work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 27 2004, 09:44 AM
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Damn! The Fed Ex guy is normally here before now!!
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post Jul 27 2004, 09:53 AM
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uh oh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

i feel my wallet beginning to twitch and that little voice in my head saying..."it's only money. buy a new engine and transaxle from jake. your wife should start talking to you again in a few months. you know you want one."

even if the voices aren't real, they say some smart things sometimes!!!!!

jake, you gonna have a price list soon for engines with this system?
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post Jul 27 2004, 10:16 AM
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we will never have a "price list" for engines. Its impossible.

Every engine is tailored specifically for the customer, and since every human is different in what they desire- the engine follows suite.

The way I give prices is fool proof. No way of misrepresentation or false advertising..... We talk and I drill you about what you desire- then I give you a quote based upon the core you have and the degree of performance you desire. I then work from a proposal that is agreed to by both parties before any money changes hands. This removes all sources of conflict during the process ( I don't have time for squabbles) and guaratnees that the cost of the project will not be inflated at the end of the project. It is not uncommon for some engine shops to inflate prices 40% from the initial numbers thay give a customer!

This is MUCH more hassle and work for me, but thats what I get paid for. we do not mass produce or create generic products, thats why my customers are so pleased with what I provide.

Basically the EMS will be listed as an option on my future proposals with a cost stated and locked in, just like all my other options (coated internals, extensive cryo work, race balance, severe duty valvetrain etc)
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post Jul 27 2004, 02:56 PM
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Jake keep up the great work. Can't wait to see the dyno results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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