Can a v8 guy with stock exhaust manifolds.., Show me how they mounted their Water pmp |
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Can a v8 guy with stock exhaust manifolds.., Show me how they mounted their Water pmp |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 08:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Im getting a little p/o's over here... I think I have tried at least 7 different ways for the water pump to fit... But so far, every time I THINK I got it, some stupid thing gets in the way... Currently my exhaust manifolds are basically touching the water pump with the pump located on the right. On the left, it was doing the same thing... The pump is all the way extended on its extender thinggy.. and everything is rotated down.
Stock exhaust manifolds only.. I know headers will fit anything. If need be I'll take a pic of what I have currently.. but im just to po'd to do that now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 08:40 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
You have to run the "ram horn" style or headers.
Take a pic.. cant help you if I cant see the issue. B |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 08:57 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
2 mins..
and I'll take some pics.. Do you have any pics of v8's with stock exhaust? |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:01 PM
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I dont know anyone who runs stock exhaust... I dont even know what "stock" is.
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Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:01 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Aight.. the water pump is not tightened down. so there is less clearance than it looks...
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Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:03 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
And the pipes...
I'll get some stupid headers if you know some cheap one's that will fit. Attached image(s) |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:07 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Yep. All the headers swoop back... and away from that area.
I think we have a GoodGuy's event coming up again in Pleasanton (few weeks) I would buy headers from a swap meet is what I'm getting at. B |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:09 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Steve (who I havent heard from in a week and a half.. who I need to get in contact with... but I dont have his number..) Hurt had his post 86 engine running with all the smog stuff and bla bla bla...
Its just getting frustrating... This should be done by now, I feel unproductive, stupid, lazy... I want to be able to get this stupid thing done.... OH ya, and to top it off, last week I found out that the front mount bar didnt fit, reason was because of the pic that I will show you... there are 3/4 or 1/2 in spacers for the custom mounts.. I either have to get rid of one (cause engine to be on one side..) or machine both sides down by hand equally (been doing that for a week off and on... thick metal so it gets hot and stays hot.. can only work on it for a couple of mins...) Attached image(s) |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:10 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Those fittings SUCK. The later fittings have a beed role in them to keep the hoses from blowing off. The remote water pump has NO provision for bypassing water before the t-stat opens like a regular SBC water pump...so the pressure builds as you rev the engine cold and it blows off the hose on one of the 4 fittings.
Find a machine shop with a tiny hand held beed roller. I have updated several fitting this year for people. B |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:11 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Ya theres another swap meet around here thats pretty big.. maybe the same one.. but its local to me.. We where going to look for a torker manifold, good electric fuel pump, tach, guages.. bla bla bla....
I want to get it driving before then.. school and work and all.... |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:12 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
The mount bar shouldnt need anything but those mounts.... not sure why the spacers are there. Show me a pic of the crossbar... I noticed it sitting under the engine.. pull it out and shoot a pic for me.
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Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:13 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh ya the fittings... Steve said I have to put double clamps on it.. I think I'll put three.. lol
What about etching a grove in there by hand with a file or something? I'll see what a machine shop locally can do.. Any idea on the mounts? |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:14 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
You type to fast..
you want a measurement? I'll do that to.. |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Ok, from the middle of each bolt hole its 16 1/2..
and the pic... Attached image(s) |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I just dont use the mouse to do anyting... the keystroke for sending a post is:
alt/s B |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:20 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
lol.. ahh the fun of it...
But your brain has to go from one subject to another super fast... I just dont know how you do it.. lol |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Ok.. here is what I *think* happened. The engine mounts (rubber ones) are for a VERY early SBC and you have a later block. They bolted those adapters on instead of locating a later style mount.
Your crossbar is bone stock for what RH sells. B |
Andyrew |
Aug 12 2004, 09:24 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Steve was where the mount came from.. so his was the later block.
I have no clue what block it is, asside from it should be the same as a 74 block.. If its the same.. Can I just skip the spacers? er? |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 12 2004, 09:27 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Bolt it up and try it. I'm betting it fits.
There is a casting number on your block at the back below the dizzy area... write the numbers down. GM has several websites where they decode the numbers and tell you exactly where the engine came from (car/truck/year) B |
skline |
Aug 12 2004, 09:29 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Skip the spacers, and if you want to run stock manifolds, you will have to do as Brad suggested, the Ram Horns are the only ones you can run stock. I am running block hugger headers and have no clearance problems on mine. I got them on Ebay for like 100 bucks and they are ceramic coated.
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