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partwerks
post Jan 21 2012, 07:06 PM
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Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47
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post Jan 21 2012, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 21 2012, 05:06 PM) *

Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47



For the time involved and the fact that your taking some ones effort- why not simply pay for it.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jan 21 2012, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 21 2012, 05:06 PM) *

Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47



How about you tell us all how to do your job so we dont have to spend our money having you do it ?
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post Jan 21 2012, 08:19 PM
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i think what they're saying is there are several loyal world vendors here that sell the parts prefabed at a fair price.... I'm sure others will post some links for you.

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post Jan 21 2012, 08:36 PM
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I happen to know he has a chassis kit already? Maybe he just worded this wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Pretty sure he has the full engman kit
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post Jan 21 2012, 10:09 PM
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I dont make mine anything like that kit on ebay . those are just scab plates. they worked OK on a factory raced car that only had to last a few races before they threw it away.
let me get this straight: you want an experienced fabricator that spent all his time to get it right to share his templates? for free?
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post Jan 21 2012, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(396 @ Jan 21 2012, 08:16 PM) *

For the time involved and the fact that your taking some ones effort- why not simply pay for it.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

especially at that ebay price

not that I'd want to use that kit at any price (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 21 2012, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Jan 21 2012, 05:29 PM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 21 2012, 05:06 PM) *

Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47



How about you tell us all how to do your job so we dont have to spend our money having you do it ?

I thought this web site existed to help people. I can pay someone to tune my car or I can ask here how to do it and do it myself. I can pay a body shop to paint my car or I can ask someone here on 914 World how to do it and paint it myself. I can pay a welder to do some re-enforcing on my car, or I can ask someone on this web site how to do it and weld it up myself. Quite often someone here will ask for help with something because they simply can't afford to pay someone. Or maybe they just enjoy doing it their ownself.
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post Jan 21 2012, 11:36 PM
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I can get all the sheet metal and punch or drill the holes or put any bends required. I don't happen to have the patterns is all, if need be I take and make patterns directly off the car. I just thought it would be easier if someone had the patterns on paper that I could trace off the shape of the plates rather than me crawling under there and making templates out of card board or something.

Maybe I don't even need the chassis kit, since I already have the Engman kit??
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post Jan 22 2012, 01:01 AM
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you want an experienced fabricator that spent all his time to get it right to share his templates? for free?


Lest we forget... These are all copies of the original. That experienced fabricator (Porsche Race Dept.) has been ripped off by all of the other so called experienced fabricators for years... Just say'n. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That said... It's cheaper to just buy a kit than it is to scab one out yourself.
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post Jan 22 2012, 07:45 AM
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I have the the kit minus two pieces but you can make missing the two missing ones. I'm willing to sell it for $50 plus shipping. The surface rust is minor and can be handsanded off.

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post Jan 22 2012, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jan 21 2012, 08:27 PM) *

QUOTE(scotty b @ Jan 21 2012, 05:29 PM) *

QUOTE(partwerks @ Jan 21 2012, 05:06 PM) *

Would anyone happen to have paper drawings/pattern for making the plates for the chassis stiffening kit that I could use to copy over to the sheet metal to make the plates?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Chassi...=item1c22d5af47



How about you tell us all how to do your job so we dont have to spend our money having you do it ?

I thought this web site existed to help people. I can pay someone to tune my car or I can ask here how to do it and do it myself. I can pay a body shop to paint my car or I can ask someone here on 914 World how to do it and paint it myself. I can pay a welder to do some re-enforcing on my car, or I can ask someone on this web site how to do it and weld it up myself. Quite often someone here will ask for help with something because they simply can't afford to pay someone. Or maybe they just enjoy doing it their ownself.


It does, and asking for help is quite a bit different then asking for a copy of a set of someone elses plans, particularly when the plans are for sale for a mere 25.00 IMHO if you have the money, time, ability and skills to make and weld in the plates properly, then you should be able to make your own cardboard patterns as well. If making the patterns is to hard for him then how in the hell does he expect to be able to fabricate and install the pieces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Now on the other hand, if some member here made his own templeates and offerd them to the community for free, I have no problem there. But in this instance he is blatantly ( including a link straight to said product ) asking for someone elses work for free through a back door channel. I also have no problem if someone sat at home and made his own pieces instead of buying a pre made kit.

Maybe it's just the lack of tact that made this post offensive to some of us
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post Jan 22 2012, 08:57 AM
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post Jan 22 2012, 10:34 AM
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I think I know why I never got respnses to some of my simple questions for help around the wiring of my car. I didn't offer to pay for it.

I thought seriously that this site was for all of us to help each other out…. Yes I understand that someone spent time and money to make the patterns (Porsche) and every one’s time is worth money, no problem with that.

Obviously he has spent money with a member vendor so he doesn’t have a problem doing that.
I think it would have been better if you just said,…yes they are available at ???? for $25.00.
Instead of flaming the poor guy for asking for help. Unfortunately this happens all the time. We are all not professional mechanics, body men or paint guys. However we ALL LOVE these cars and take pride in doing the “work” first hand.

Maybe I am out of line here but it is just MHO

And yes, I put my flame suit on already because if history repeats itself I will be flamed shortly.
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post Jan 22 2012, 11:23 AM
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As Slick points out, back in the day Porsche built new race cars *for one race under the factory banner* then sold them to customers.
I recall reading Jeff Zewart's(sp?) tale of a rally from (IIRC) Mexico to Alaska having to stop for welding repairs a few times to fix cracks outside of the "stiffening kit" on his 914-6GT.

Personally, I never used the fishing lure but managed without one.
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post Jan 22 2012, 12:45 PM
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Maybe it's just the lack of tact that made this post offensive to some of us

A lack of tact on more than one post. Some people can transfer their thoughts to the written word accurately. Some have trouble doing it. It's a lot easier for most to ask for something face to face than asking in writing. Written words are interpreted in many different ways. It's hard to read a post and know exactly what the person is thinking. Sometimes it gets intepreted wrong and the wrong conlusions are jumped to. I'm sure this post will be thought of in many different ways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jan 22 2012, 02:56 PM
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I dont appreciate your tone, Ellyut! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jan 22 2012, 03:02 PM
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I understand Scotty's initial problem with the question asked, but I think Ellyut hit it on the head. If you have seen Loyd's (partwerks) posts, he does not represent himself in prose like some of us. Older gentlemen seem to have this problem. Hell, I am surprised that Ellyut can find the keyboard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Scotty, relax man.


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post Jan 22 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 22 2012, 12:56 PM) *

I dont appreciate your tone, Ellyut! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Oh yeah! What exactly do you mean by that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jan 22 2012, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jan 22 2012, 05:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 22 2012, 12:56 PM) *

I dont appreciate your tone, Ellyut! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Oh yeah! What exactly do you mean by that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Oh, I think you know, mister!

I think you are awesome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jerkit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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