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> OT: Best Linux Distrubution, Red Hat or SUSE
thomasotten
post Oct 5 2004, 09:35 PM
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I am looking at upgrading our Linux workstations at work. We run Redhat 7.0 right now, and would normally just upgrade to the latest Red Hat but now they charge $$ now for the OS, which used to be a free download. I am considering SUSE Linux as well. We use Linux as a technical desktop in an engineering firm, and I also use it to run application servers like Tomcat and other Java apps. Any recommendations?
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post Oct 5 2004, 09:54 PM
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The only thing "official" you can get from RedHat now is the Enterprise server. The desktop stuff has been dropped. Fedora is their free "experimental" version, which (I believe) still has the desktop stuff. However, from every report I've heard, Fedora has all kinds of problems.

I'm still running RH 9.0, which is the last "free" desktop version they delivered. Much better than 7.0, esp. for desktop stuff.

I'm facing a similar decision soon myself, and will probably go to Slackware for servers. Old and familiar to me. For desktop, I haven't a clue what to tell you.
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post Oct 5 2004, 09:56 PM
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I use Fedora Core 2 at home. Not sure if there are restrictions that would prevent you from using it in a business environment. If there are SuSE would be a good choice.
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post Oct 5 2004, 10:03 PM
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Well Red Hat does have "Enterprise Workstation", so they do have a non-server product. But it starts at $179. SUSE is $89. We also run VMWare for access to Windows, so you can see that the costs start to add up to set up a single system.
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post Oct 5 2004, 10:53 PM
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SuSe is gonna charge you also. Personally, I use Xandros. Yes they charge for it, but it installs very easily and works great for people to are coming from Windows. I've never managed to be successful with SuSe and had only limited success with Mandrake. I also like the fact that Xandros is based upon Debian which has the best package management stuff around.
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post Oct 5 2004, 11:04 PM
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freeBSD is still free ...

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post Oct 5 2004, 11:06 PM
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I forgot - Xandros now has a free edition that you can download. The Business Edition comes with Crossover Office so if you need to run Windoze programs you get a lot for your money.
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post Oct 6 2004, 12:50 AM
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I am running Fedora Core 2. I have not seen any serious reasons to use anything else. When RedHat dropped "support" for RH9 and went to Fedora, I tried Debian, and it sucked. Core is nice, and has an excellent package manager/update tool called yum. This should be the last upgrade you have to reinstall for. I reinstalled my server in a weekend. Did a little config work, and nearly all the software I needed I installed with "yum install foo" or "yum install andyPhotoFuzzifier".

It mostly comes down to what you are used to though - all the distros put stuff in different places. I happen to know all the redhat config directory structures inside out, and like working with RPM and yum, so Core works best for me. Feel free to IM or email me if I can help at all with getting your setup running.
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post Oct 6 2004, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 5 2004, 09:04 PM)
freeBSD is still free ...

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NetBSD and OpenBSD are free too.

There is a rumour that Oracle for Linux is quicker under Linux emulation on FreeBSD than it is on linux. I think that was prior to linux 2.4 though.
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post Oct 6 2004, 02:24 AM
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hilow,

I'm running RH 9.0 which I upgraded to the newest 2.6 kernel. very stable, but you have to install
most of the software from different sources (in my opinion the best way to have an up to date system).

Fedora is based on the latest rh distibution, features the latest kernel and is free of charge ...

As you might guess , i hate the suse distributions ...

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post Oct 6 2004, 09:45 AM
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a technical desktop in an engineering firm


How about a dual 2.5ghz Apple G5? I love OSX. It's easy to administer and provides all the benefits of BSD unix.
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post Oct 6 2004, 09:47 AM
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post Oct 6 2004, 10:02 AM
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Another vote for Mac OS X. The best Linux box you can share with non Linux people too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 6 2004, 10:18 AM
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I'm a SuSE guy. Redhat just didn't cut it for me
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post Oct 6 2004, 10:56 AM
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Fedora Core 2 and Red Hat 9 tickle my fancy.
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post Oct 6 2004, 10:57 AM
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Suse, but it has been a while.
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post Oct 6 2004, 11:26 AM
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Another vote for SuSE. I hate RH. My two favorites are Debian (and Debain derivatives) and SuSE. Don't think I'd deploy raw Debian on desktops (but use it exclusively on servers). For desktop deployment I wouldn't hesitate at all to use SuSE.

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post Oct 6 2004, 03:09 PM
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I've got two Fedora Core1 machines. One is dual boot Win98/Core1. Both were upgraded to Core1 from either RH9 or RH8. No problems. Everything works that worked before. Yum rocks.

.....although I'm a closet Suse fan. I like the interface but I don't have any seat time with it.

If you like the RH stuff, Fedora will be a nice fit.

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post Oct 7 2004, 03:43 PM
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I think they give a lot more for the money. Support is good. Updates easy. Windows runs well in VMware except for sound.
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post Oct 7 2004, 03:51 PM
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I've been using Redhat 9 forever and just moved to Fedora 2.

To save yourself from package dependency HELL, download apt and synaptic right away. it's the best way to keep all of your packages up-to-date and friendly with each other.

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