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Blasting price question, for those who have had it done |
scotty b |
May 27 2012, 06:29 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I'm looking at borrowing some money and buying a new blasting setup. This is a new technology that generates no heat, works EXTREMELY qyuick and is ready for immediate priming. What I am trying to figure out is what a normal sand or soda blast job runs to do the complete exterior. If you are willing to post up what it cost you plese do. I'm thinking if I can get 3-4 jobs lined up I might be able to pay for this ting immediately depending on it's cost.
If you do post, please let me know what type of media was used and on what type of car. I'd like some ideas of what different sized cars run. A friend of mine had his 50 Ford body only done in soda for 1800.00. According to this website their setup would do that car in 2-3 hours total (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
MDG |
May 27 2012, 06:40 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
That would be a fantastic way to start a resto/repair for someone doing what you do. Imagine having nothing but clean metal and any rust and prior damage exposed.
Sounds like a win win to me. You can see everything right off the bat and your customers will end up with an even more thorough and complete job. |
mepstein |
May 27 2012, 06:44 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I got 2 quotes for soda; 1 -mobile setup to your house guy and one from large company that does trucks, construction vehicles and buildings. They both said $100/hour and estimated 12 hours for the whole car. Top, bottom, inside, the works. They switch to sand or other materials to get off rust and undercoating.
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r_towle |
May 27 2012, 07:29 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Mobile soda, 356 tub, 500 bucks, two years ago
That was just the tub. Local blaster os 1000 bucks for everything, doors, hoods etc |
cary |
May 27 2012, 10:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Last year there was a stripped 911 tub at Rothsport in PDX.
I was told it cost $1200. It was done with walnut shells. |
914itis |
May 27 2012, 11:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I was reading the thread here where the PO had my shell soda blasted for $1500.00. I know that it was epoxy primed right after but not sure that was included in the price . No matter how you look at it you will make your money back, will save you time as well. Great investment for your line of business.
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OmaPossu |
May 28 2012, 06:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 4-October 09 From: Finland Member No.: 10,886 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Prices from Europe, 914 body shell with out doors or lids. 13h blasting with soda and 1k€. And this was without VAT.
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Series9 |
May 28 2012, 06:30 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
I had Nelson's car done by a mobile soda blaster one year ago.
He planned 4 hours. It took him 10. He hadn't stripped a VW or Porsche before and complained that it was too well done from the factory. Next time he wants $1200. |
gopack |
May 28 2012, 07:12 AM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
I had my car soda blasted. they did the entire inside and outside of the car. I was not there, so i have no idea how long it took, but i was charged $1000. I know my car had at least 3 coats of paint, 2 over the factory red. he sand blasted some areas like the insides of the wheel wells.
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balljoint |
May 28 2012, 08:13 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
My car blows sand out of the fresh air vents every time I put the fan on high.
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Mikey914 |
May 28 2012, 09:16 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Had mine done locally for $350 with wallnut shells.. Took me 2 hours to get all the extra particles out. I dropped it off as a roller with all the hoses wrapped up, and all the areas I didn't want blasted ducktaped.
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PRS914-6 |
May 28 2012, 09:46 AM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
Scotty, I had mine done for about $1200 inside and out including epoxy primer immediately after blasting. Done with fine proprietary minerals that are supposed to reduce warping.
There are those that complain about the never ending sand that continues to show up. It's a valid point but can be resolved by several hours of blowing, vacuuming and tapping with a piece of wood to dislodge as you clean. PIA for sure but I don't have any problems with sand showing up. |
scotty b |
May 28 2012, 09:47 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
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Dr Evil |
May 28 2012, 12:14 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Soda is the only way to go. Better than nuts and way better than sand. Low heat, no mess.
I have heard quote for a 914 in soda in this area for $2k. |
OU8AVW |
May 28 2012, 12:40 PM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm glad you caught that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And for the record, Evil prefers soda over nuts.... |
PRS914-6 |
May 28 2012, 01:10 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
Scotty, I am sure you have seen most blasting techniques. What do you prefer for surface preparation? My understanding was that soda, while cleaner leaves a pretty smooth finish and sand if too coarse leaves too rough a finish. I suspect a paint shop would price accordingly to the amount of preparation. I would be curious as to what you recommend.
The guy that did mine runs a stripping company and I watched him blast off the printing on a cigarette (no shit!) without tearing the paper. I don't remember the media he used for that but I was amazed. I know he uses minerals, sand, garnet, plastic and others depending on the needs. |
scotty b |
May 28 2012, 01:21 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Soda is the only way to go. Better than nuts and way better than sand. Low heat, no mess. I have heard quote for a 914 in soda in this area for $2k. Soda is total b.s. First off it won't do jack to rust or bondo, second, once the car is blasetd it needs to be washed and preferably sanded otherwise the primer will not stick to the car. This was first apparent in the airline industry when planes were being soda blasted and repainted and the paint started peeling off within a couple months. Most primers ( definitely the one I use ) have an acid in them to etch into the base metal, soda does not etch into the metal mechanically, and is a base substance ergo the two do not mix. I do not and will not use soda, I have personally seen it fail twice and both times was done by a business that speicialized in it. The process I am looking at is the new solution to soda. As I said, it generates zero heat, uses glass as the media, and leaves the surface ready for immediate priming. This process also has no dust, leaves no residue, and can be done within 10 feet of another car and will not harm or sully it in any way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Pending price this is THE best setup I have found |
mepstein |
May 28 2012, 02:12 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I bet you could set up a 2nd business with this new blasting. Have them drive down or trailer, blast the car and drive home the same day. Hire someone at $20/hour and charge owner less than soda blasting.
Wonder how well it does on boats? |
Dr Evil |
May 28 2012, 02:36 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Soda is the only way to go. Better than nuts and way better than sand. Low heat, no mess. I have heard quote for a 914 in soda in this area for $2k. Soda is total b.s. First off it won't do jack to rust or bondo, second, once the car is blasetd it needs to be washed and preferably sanded otherwise the primer will not stick to the car. This was first apparent in the airline industry when planes were being soda blasted and repainted and the paint started peeling off within a couple months. Most primers ( definitely the one I use ) have an acid in them to etch into the base metal, soda does not etch into the metal mechanically, and is a base substance ergo the two do not mix. I do not and will not use soda, I have personally seen it fail twice and both times was done by a business that speicialized in it. The process I am looking at is the new solution to soda. As I said, it generates zero heat, uses glass as the media, and leaves the surface ready for immediate priming. This process also has no dust, leaves no residue, and can be done within 10 feet of another car and will not harm or sully it in any way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Pending price this is THE best setup I have found Well that sounds pretty amazing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
MDG |
May 28 2012, 04:29 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
The process I am looking at is the new solution to soda. As I said, it generates zero heat, uses glass as the media, and leaves the surface ready for immediate priming. This process also has no dust, leaves no residue, and can be done within 10 feet of another car and will not harm or sully it in any way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Pending price this is THE best setup I have found (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Sounds perfect. |
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