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Fiberglass hood & trunk, Install options? |
retrotech |
Oct 15 2004, 01:15 PM
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retrotech Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-November 03 From: Mosier, Oregon Member No.: 1,302 |
I have read about 2 pins, 4 pins used for mounting hood.
Are there any other ideas? Does anyone remove tension/springs, and use existing hinges? Retro |
J P Stein |
Oct 15 2004, 01:39 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
A timely subject. I'm thinkin' on this as part of my winter (yuck!) project. I'm all ears (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Root_Werks |
Oct 15 2004, 01:46 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Something I have also thought about doing to me car to help lighten it up. Hopefully some folks will reply adding some good advise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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retrotech |
Oct 15 2004, 01:57 PM
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retrotech Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-November 03 From: Mosier, Oregon Member No.: 1,302 |
I hope when the day crew gets home there will be some good ideas. My car was damaged recently, so insurance is buying bumper F&R, hood & trunk in Fiberglass.
I think I would like to use existing hinges, with no springs, and drill them for the look & weight. I also don't want to have to open the hood for gas stops. So I am searching for something a bit techy looking. Not interested in Vintage look. Something similar to cafe Motorcyle? |
bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 02:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
You can use existing mountings and springs. I would suggest adjusting the tension out of the front springs, because of the lighter weight. Best source I've found is http://www.rennspd.com (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
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J P Stein |
Oct 15 2004, 02:09 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Good suppliers of F/G bits would also be a help.
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bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Oct 15 2004, 01:09 PM) Good suppliers of F/G bits would also be a help. Never heard of it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Mueller |
Oct 15 2004, 02:20 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE You can use existing mountings and springs. I would suggest adjusting the tension out of the front springs, because of the lighter weight. Best source I've found is http://www.rennspd.com is that a fact or a guess on using the stock springs?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) are the 'glass hoods* strong enough not to snap in half when trying to close the hood?? *and from which manufacture?, there are no "standards" so each brand can be different |
bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
Just a guess, there is a lot of room to adjust them. I imagine you could replace them with lighter springs pretty easily, maybe even bungee cords. For the rear I'd think the shock kit would work. I'm sure rennspd could tell you.
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lapuwali |
Oct 15 2004, 02:29 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
In my experience, front springs on even the lightest setting are still too much for an FG hood. I can't comment on the rear, as my old 914 didn't have rear trunk springs. For a street car, I'd use a hood prop attached to the stock hinge in both cases (rather like the prototype). I'd probably not do the front simply because of the extra hassle during fill-up. You're not saving that much weight, really. 10-15lbs, tops.
For a racer, I'd probably remove the stock hardware completely and go with four pins. |
machina |
Oct 15 2004, 02:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 15 2004, 04:20 PM) are the 'glass hoods* strong enough not to snap in half when trying to close the hood Most manufactureres offer normal fg parts and "race" parts which are laid up to be much lighter, not good for a street car. I have seen some of the fg race panels flex and bow at speed from aero load. The nicer fg hoods and trunks I have seen have reinforcements built in and aluminum bosses to mount to the stock hinges. |
bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
QUOTE(lapuwali @ Oct 15 2004, 01:29 PM) For a racer, I'd probably remove the stock hardware completely and go with four pins. In a racer, definitly, remove the all hardware and pin it. I think the pins are required, aren't they? I still like the idea of using bungee cords to replace the stock springs in the front for a street car, as you said, props are a pain. |
Howard |
Oct 15 2004, 02:52 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Have f/g hood. Stock hinges are fine, but lightest spring setting still too much, so use a stick or better yet the gas struts from camp914. Easy install, work perfectly.
Gas Cap? EBay Attached image(s) |
bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
I really like that gas cap Howard, great idea. Do you think bungee cords would work to replace front springs?
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retrotech |
Oct 15 2004, 03:00 PM
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retrotech Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-November 03 From: Mosier, Oregon Member No.: 1,302 |
Thanks the idea of the cap, and that may ne the one.
I am getting all of my FG from Getty Design. Mark at Riverside was very felpfull. He is doing a little heavier lay up om hood & trunk, so I can get a better paint finish, less lumps. There stuff is hand lay up, not chop gun. If you oreder a few pieces, you can get a break. Retro |
bob91403 |
Oct 15 2004, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
If you're buying from getty it's for a racer, correct? Pretty pricey for a street car.
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Howard |
Oct 15 2004, 03:19 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
I have the Getty hood. Really nice work, but don't think I would have paid the $500 when a good steel one can be found so much cheaper. But body shop had already ordered it, and insurance company was paying.....
Gas door cap is OK in CA, but not sure how leakproof it would be in rainy land. The cup and drain surrounding stock fill should do the job, but who knows. A bungee could work, but gas ones are so much neater. Stock springs would not work with my Getty hood. Very visible bow when closed, so don't advise you try that. |
retrotech |
Oct 15 2004, 03:28 PM
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retrotech Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-November 03 From: Mosier, Oregon Member No.: 1,302 |
I didn't pay near $500 for the hood. The price on the packages was very good, and Hartford is paying anyway.
Cheap HP is waht I am looking for [less weight]. It is a street car. Getty hood with out springs on hinges would work wouldn't they? Retro |
datapace |
Oct 15 2004, 03:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 19-January 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 1,579 Region Association: South East States |
There are some good ideas on these sites:
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jonlowe/ and http://hobbystage.net/porsche/9146gt/ I'm also trying to work this out. Have Renspeed hoods f/r and even though it has the hinge/latch holes, I'm thinking about going with pins up front. I am using the camp914 shocks and they work fine on the front hood so far. -datapace |
Jeroen |
Oct 15 2004, 05:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I think that gas cap looks good!
Is the inner diameter big enuf so you can twist off the stock cap through it? |
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