Any recommended comfy race seats?, My Corbeau's don't support my back.... |
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Any recommended comfy race seats?, My Corbeau's don't support my back.... |
nine14cats |
Oct 19 2004, 06:34 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi Folks,
Any recommendations on comfortable race seats? Comfort being a little softer than a Kirkey and a little more supportive in the lumbar than a Corbeau? I was looking at the Sparco's and they seem to have a little more foam padding than other brands.... The seats need to mount to the stock rails or at least be adjustable, my wife and I share the car. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill P. |
ChrisFoley |
Oct 19 2004, 06:42 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Get the Kirkey and buy some foam that you can add where you need it.
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TimT |
Oct 19 2004, 06:46 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
LOL I second the Kirkey, you can get NASA foam and fill in the hot spots
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Jeroen |
Oct 19 2004, 06:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Choosing seats from a catalog or online shop is pretty much impossible
You have to go sit in 'em to see how they fit you (and Doris) Also make sure the seat provides enough leg support just above the knee Get a FIA approved fiberglass shell seat, don't waste your money on t-frame seats (even though some of those are FIA approved as well) Lots of brands and types to choose from; Recaro (more expensive), OMP, Sparco, Momo, Corbeau, Cobra Although the padding may seem thin, they're a lot more comfy that they look since a f/g seat supports you better Mounting those to a slider will/may require some mods to the floor, since the f/g seats are all have side mounts Most brands have a generic slider available (about $40) or get some VW sliders at the junkjard |
Jeroen |
Oct 19 2004, 06:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I may be wrong, but I don't think Kirkey seats have shoulder supports
Those help quite a bit as side supports and add some safety in case of a side impact For a track only car like yours, you might even consider a seat with headsupports |
ChrisFoley |
Oct 19 2004, 07:20 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Oct 19 2004, 08:55 PM) I may be wrong, but I don't think Kirkey seats have shoulder supports Those help quite a bit as side supports and add some safety in case of a side impact For a track only car like yours, you might even consider a seat with headsupports Kirkey makes a nice aluminum road race seat with shoulder support, and no rib protectors. Other companies also make similar products. Metal seats offer the best support and protection IMO. Also they are easier to mount, especially on sliders, without sitting up to high. If you wanted a really custom fit you could get a seat just a little too big and use 2 part foam to create custom inserts for both drivers. |
nine14cats |
Oct 19 2004, 07:22 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hmmm...customer inserts...now that's a great idea....one for the wifey...one for me...
I guess I'll need to find a place where I can sit in these things. When Frey racing went away, I lost the one place I could touch all of this stuff. I'll be in Pomona, CA next weekend...any race shops that carry seats down there? Bill P. |
drew365 |
Oct 19 2004, 08:12 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
QUOTE I'll be in Pomona, CA next weekend...any race shops that carry seats down there? Werks II in Burbank has a bunch of seats, mostly Sparco, but it will give you a start. Burbank's not close to Pomona but if you're coming south on the 5 they're right off the freeway. |
Randal |
Oct 19 2004, 08:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE Get the Kirkey and buy some foam that you can add where you need it. I agree with Chris and Andrew knows how to mold a seat to your complete body that then fits inside the Kirkey. Andrew, where are you? Need your input. |
campbellcj |
Oct 19 2004, 09:15 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,547 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
Another option that is cheap and might help is the small velcro-fastened lumbar pads. Sparco makes 'em and others might as well. They are basically fabric-covered discs (or hexagons or whatever) that are foam filled and you can attach them to the points where you want a bit more support.
FWIW I got the Cobra Suzuka seats not too long ago and like 'em a lot; however, they are very tight and anybody much over 185lbs (or looking for streetable comfort) would need the GT/larger version. They are FIA-tagged kevlar shell seats; very strong and light. Any of these race seats will be a challenge to mount on slidable rails and still have decent headroom AND race-acceptable strength; however, if you are happy w/ your Corbeau mounting currently then you should be fine w/ different seats of similar dimensions. |
fiid |
Oct 19 2004, 09:56 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
There is an inflatable lumbar support option for the Forzas - have you tried that?
Fiid. |
VegasRacer |
Oct 19 2004, 10:21 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,522 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
I've got a Sparco seat in the race car. I have found it to be very comfortable. That is the seat that was in the car when I did the week long 2000+ mile cruise for the 914 O.A. Tour 2000. The next time I am in the market for a seat, I will look at the Sparco models first.
Bill - do any of the sanctioning bodies you are planning on running with require an additional seat back brace? I have seen some 2 driver cars that have a nifty set up that is permanetly attached to the seat and then has a pin system so that it can be quickly adjusted when the seat is moved forward for Doris to drive. |
Andyrew |
Oct 19 2004, 10:34 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I was thinking of using foam to make custom seats for myself.... I saw a thing where they covered the person in a bag, and had them sit in the seat, with some foam pads, then put expanding foam in it and let it expand to your body, then get out, file/carve down the excess, and you have a seat molded to ya... But I lost time/intrest... lol
Iffin you do have a plan on sellin those seats... I have a needy car (iffin the price is right)... lol |
nine14cats |
Oct 19 2004, 10:45 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Wow! Thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Lotsa info.
Trying to find a seat that fits both Doris and I was a challenge. Believe it or not, the Corbeau Forza's fit us very well...they just don't give us lumbar support and I usually end up with a very stiff back on track days. Auto-x's are okay as we're in and out of the car alot. The Sparco's look comfy, but maybe the Corbeaus with an upgraded model would be okay....man, I've got to find a place that has these things to try and sit in. Thanks Everyone, and keep it coming! Bill and Doris P. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Trekkor |
Oct 19 2004, 11:59 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Bill,
Wine Country Motorsports at Infineon, has several different seats you can sit in right in the store. Call them and ask what they have. The Racer's Group may have some as well. KT |
nine14cats |
Oct 20 2004, 08:08 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Thanks Trekkor, I'll give them a call.
Bill P. |
brant |
Oct 20 2004, 08:24 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The most comfortable seat I've ever sat in, race car wise...
was the EVO and 2nd was the EVOII (slightly larger) I've mounted them in a 944TS but never in a teener brant |
nine14cats |
Oct 20 2004, 09:18 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi Brant,
I've heard the EVO's are nice. Did it have it's own braces to mount to the car or did you fab your own? Bill P. |
seanery |
Oct 20 2004, 09:23 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Hey Bill, IO Port is where I got my Kirkeys, aren't they near you SF guys?
They are very comfy, even made an office chair out of one. Sat in that chair everyday for over three years now! I like 'em lots, and multiple sizes are great. They'll help you measure yourself to get the right size, too! |
nine14cats |
Oct 20 2004, 09:26 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi Sean,
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know I/O port was close to me. With all of the info I have, I now will go about putting my rear end into some seats. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'll make some calls today. Bill P. |
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