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post Jan 13 2013, 07:33 AM
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Hi,
Has anyone a drawing for the 914-6 Headers with or w/o heat exchangers?
In the best case with dimensions.
I must build my own ones.

Thanks
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post Jan 17 2013, 04:03 AM
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no one?
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post Jan 17 2013, 04:31 AM
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I could get you some rough dimensions off these

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post Jan 17 2013, 08:23 AM
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Hi T.C.
That would be great

Thx
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post Jan 19 2013, 11:58 PM
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why not just take a set of 911 headers & cut 'em up & copy them in reverse

- adding as much length as it turns out you need depending on if you are using a stock muffler or megaphones?

p.s. - i bought one of carr914's sets last year

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post Jan 20 2013, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 17 2013, 03:31 AM) *

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I'm not trying to Hijack the thread, but T.C. what do you happen to know what BRAND of headers those are??

I have an old set of those hanging on the wall, and have never know the maker.
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post Jan 20 2013, 08:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure that those are euro headers
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post Jan 20 2013, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(RON S. @ Jan 20 2013, 07:24 AM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 17 2013, 03:31 AM) *

I could get you some rough dimensions off these

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I'm not trying to Hijack the thread, but T.C. what do you happen to know what BRAND of headers those are??

I have an old set of those hanging on the wall, and have never know the maker.




Hi Ron,

If you decide to sell your headers let me know. I'm looking for a pr. for my 914-6 2.7 RS build. Think 1 5/8 '' is what I need but have heard others say 1 1/2 '' ID maybe best for my setup.

Luke

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post Jan 20 2013, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 17 2013, 05:31 AM) *

I could get you some rough dimensions off these

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DEC, I'm going to try to get to this for you today
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post Jan 20 2013, 11:17 AM
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I have 2 sets of this "flat collector" style - both 1 5/8"

- my first set was acquired circa 1992-3 and i don't recall who from, but i was buying a lot of stuff from Automotion in Sunnyvale back then - i don't believe they were from Europe in any case

- i have an old advert picture from Patrick MS showing this "flat collector" style set was for sale by them - don't know the brand, or mfgr,

- they now sell a different style

insofar as a source in Germany for 914-6 headers - try this old discussion

posted on Pelican by peterrutt Dec 06:

"We found a guy in Germany who makes replicas of original 911 Rally exhausts. This system has short megaphones with 2" entries running from the standard headers running out to 3" at the entries to the (modified) silencer box.

Silencer Box is completely empty, the 3inch pipes run straight through & straight out to the back - they have internal holes to allow some pulse venting within the box.

We race a 2 litre 911 in European FIA races (no noise regs) and also in UK - 105Db max. 2 litre motor on Solexes, 'S' cams, Porsche headers to be legal, but downstream from the headers anything goes.

We had a big problem with gas reversion in the intake section - motor would hardly pull until 5ooorpm. THEN it went well...

With these fitted, almost no reversion, engine now pulls well from 4000 & top end is clean - dyno said 196HP"


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I'm pretty sure that those are euro headers

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post Jan 20 2013, 11:23 PM
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euro is a brand made in I believe nevada.
George Nobel I believe is his name.

not european... just a brand name.
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post Feb 1 2013, 11:18 AM
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Wilco, Sorry for the Delay, I had gotten them out, but then forgotten about them!

The Measurement are all in Inches, so I'm sure you will have to Convert to Metric

The Inside Diameter of the Pipes are 1 1/2 Inches

Passenger Side

Front to Rear - 36 1/2
Front to Collector Flange - 29
Widest Point - 13

Drivers Side

Front to Rear - 38 3/4
Front to Collector - 31
Widest - 11 1/2

I tried to measure individual pipes but my measurement would be guesses due to the bends. I will say that the Pipes are Not Equal Lengths

T.C.

also here is a Link to European Headers WebSite, even though mine don't look quite like European's

http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/


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post Feb 1 2013, 11:34 AM
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Those headers look like Triads.
http://www.triadwestperformance.com/Products.htm


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post Feb 1 2013, 01:56 PM
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Not quite, the tube for the forward cylinder on the Triad set is straight. The one in T.C.'s pics bends inboard.

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post Feb 1 2013, 02:18 PM
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George Nobel, european racing....
its like I'm invisible here

and larry, don't believe that old info from 2006
reversion is not the problem it used to be thought to be
that guy should of tried a cross over pipe in his exhaust if he wanted to solve his problem all of those years ago


sheeesh....


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post Feb 1 2013, 04:53 PM
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Did somebody just reply ?? Does George make two styles of six headers ?? the ones I have seen have slip joints welded and need extensions. Or am I all wet ??

http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/


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post Feb 2 2013, 04:52 AM
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T.C.
Many thanks for the measurement.
That's helps me a lot.




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QUOTE(brant @ Feb 1 2013, 12:18 PM) *


its like I'm invisible here

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Who is that apparition standing in the corner over there?

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post Feb 2 2013, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 1 2013, 03:53 PM) *

Did somebody just reply ?? Does George make two styles of six headers ?? the ones I have seen have slip joints welded and need extensions. Or am I all wet ??

http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/



These are the same headers that PMS sells. I called them a few weeks ago about a pr. I was told what they have in stock is it. The manufacture is no longer making them. I do not recall who makes them but this is what I was told by James at PMS.

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