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914-6 Header drawing |
DEC |
Jan 13 2013, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Hi,
Has anyone a drawing for the 914-6 Headers with or w/o heat exchangers? In the best case with dimensions. I must build my own ones. Thanks |
DEC |
Jan 17 2013, 04:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
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carr914 |
Jan 17 2013, 04:31 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I could get you some rough dimensions off these
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DEC |
Jan 17 2013, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
Hi T.C.
That would be great Thx |
larryM |
Jan 19 2013, 11:58 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
why not just take a set of 911 headers & cut 'em up & copy them in reverse
- adding as much length as it turns out you need depending on if you are using a stock muffler or megaphones? p.s. - i bought one of carr914's sets last year |
RON S. |
Jan 20 2013, 08:24 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
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brant |
Jan 20 2013, 08:26 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm pretty sure that those are euro headers
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Luke M |
Jan 20 2013, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,374 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
I could get you some rough dimensions off these I'm not trying to Hijack the thread, but T.C. what do you happen to know what BRAND of headers those are?? I have an old set of those hanging on the wall, and have never know the maker. Hi Ron, If you decide to sell your headers let me know. I'm looking for a pr. for my 914-6 2.7 RS build. Think 1 5/8 '' is what I need but have heard others say 1 1/2 '' ID maybe best for my setup. Luke |
carr914 |
Jan 20 2013, 10:10 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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larryM |
Jan 20 2013, 11:17 AM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
I have 2 sets of this "flat collector" style - both 1 5/8" - my first set was acquired circa 1992-3 and i don't recall who from, but i was buying a lot of stuff from Automotion in Sunnyvale back then - i don't believe they were from Europe in any case - i have an old advert picture from Patrick MS showing this "flat collector" style set was for sale by them - don't know the brand, or mfgr, - they now sell a different style insofar as a source in Germany for 914-6 headers - try this old discussion posted on Pelican by peterrutt Dec 06: "We found a guy in Germany who makes replicas of original 911 Rally exhausts. This system has short megaphones with 2" entries running from the standard headers running out to 3" at the entries to the (modified) silencer box. Silencer Box is completely empty, the 3inch pipes run straight through & straight out to the back - they have internal holes to allow some pulse venting within the box. We race a 2 litre 911 in European FIA races (no noise regs) and also in UK - 105Db max. 2 litre motor on Solexes, 'S' cams, Porsche headers to be legal, but downstream from the headers anything goes. We had a big problem with gas reversion in the intake section - motor would hardly pull until 5ooorpm. THEN it went well... With these fitted, almost no reversion, engine now pulls well from 4000 & top end is clean - dyno said 196HP" I'm pretty sure that those are euro headers |
brant |
Jan 20 2013, 11:23 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
euro is a brand made in I believe nevada.
George Nobel I believe is his name. not european... just a brand name. |
carr914 |
Feb 1 2013, 11:18 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Wilco, Sorry for the Delay, I had gotten them out, but then forgotten about them!
The Measurement are all in Inches, so I'm sure you will have to Convert to Metric The Inside Diameter of the Pipes are 1 1/2 Inches Passenger Side Front to Rear - 36 1/2 Front to Collector Flange - 29 Widest Point - 13 Drivers Side Front to Rear - 38 3/4 Front to Collector - 31 Widest - 11 1/2 I tried to measure individual pipes but my measurement would be guesses due to the bends. I will say that the Pipes are Not Equal Lengths T.C. also here is a Link to European Headers WebSite, even though mine don't look quite like European's http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/ |
sixnotfour |
Feb 1 2013, 11:34 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,433 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Those headers look like Triads.
http://www.triadwestperformance.com/Products.htm Attached image(s) |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 1 2013, 01:56 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Not quite, the tube for the forward cylinder on the Triad set is straight. The one in T.C.'s pics bends inboard.
--DD |
brant |
Feb 1 2013, 02:18 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
George Nobel, european racing....
its like I'm invisible here and larry, don't believe that old info from 2006 reversion is not the problem it used to be thought to be that guy should of tried a cross over pipe in his exhaust if he wanted to solve his problem all of those years ago sheeesh.... brant |
sixnotfour |
Feb 1 2013, 04:53 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,433 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Did somebody just reply ?? Does George make two styles of six headers ?? the ones I have seen have slip joints welded and need extensions. Or am I all wet ??
http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/ Attached image(s) |
DEC |
Feb 2 2013, 04:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 10-November 05 From: Rehburg Member No.: 5,104 Region Association: Germany |
T.C.
Many thanks for the measurement. That's helps me a lot. |
carr914 |
Feb 2 2013, 04:55 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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SLITS |
Feb 2 2013, 09:09 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
its like I'm invisible here brant Who is that apparition standing in the corner over there? No Brant, you are to tall to be invisible ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
Luke M |
Feb 2 2013, 09:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,374 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Did somebody just reply ?? Does George make two styles of six headers ?? the ones I have seen have slip joints welded and need extensions. Or am I all wet ?? http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-6/ These are the same headers that PMS sells. I called them a few weeks ago about a pr. I was told what they have in stock is it. The manufacture is no longer making them. I do not recall who makes them but this is what I was told by James at PMS. Luke |
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