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Why not a 3.0 six? |
mtn flyr |
May 5 2013, 02:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 234 Joined: 20-December 07 From: Bozeman Mt Member No.: 8,491 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Like the title says, any reasons to not put a 3.0 in my 914? I know of a 78 3.0 SC engine with good leak down #s all 6 and 7's. Good compression across the board at 150 to 159, sounds great is super clean, doesn't show signs of oil leaks,, has turbo valve covers, updated chain tensioners. Currently running CIS. I know the CIS is more difficult to fit but has been done. Any thoughts?
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Dr Evil |
May 5 2013, 02:57 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
CIS is not hard. Dont forget an oil cooler in the front of the car and you might want to regear your gear box (depends on how you like the stock gearing). Other than that, not a big deal.
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rfuerst911sc |
May 5 2013, 03:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
I have a 3.0 in mine love it but I'm running Webers.
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Jeffs9146 |
May 5 2013, 03:23 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
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I love my sc powered car! I modified the stock fi to fit without cutting anything! |
a914guy |
May 5 2013, 04:59 PM
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914 Master Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 25-December 02 From: Allen, Texas Member No.: 11 |
Like the title says, any reasons to not put a 3.0 in my 914? I know of a 78 3.0 SC engine with good leak down #s all 6 and 7's. Good compression across the board at 150 to 159, sounds great is super clean, doesn't show signs of oil leaks,, has turbo valve covers, updated chain tensioners. Currently running CIS. I know the CIS is more difficult to fit but has been done. Any thoughts? Many of us have or a variation of the six. The SC has fuel injection considerations but it's a great candidate for a conversion. I have an SC powered six and although it's carburated it's a great combination with the 910 gearbox. Secondary oil cooler options to the front mounted cooler are available if you want to keep the trunk and plumbing simple. Good luck! Rich '71 3.0L - Ole Yeller |
sixnotfour |
May 5 2013, 05:06 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,437 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sounds Great...how much $$$ 3.2 is better..all around..mainly the injection..
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Steve |
May 5 2013, 07:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,616 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I have owned a 2.7 and driven a stock 3.0 and I felt they both matched the stock gearing quite well. With my 3.2 I was not happy with the gearing and I am now upgrading to a 915. The 3.2 with a 901 was fine for the track, but for the street 1st is too low and second is too high to start out in without slipping the clutch.. With a 3.6 and v8's they have enough power to start out in second and don't use first at all.
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Dr Evil |
May 5 2013, 08:09 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I love my 2.7 with CIS. Does good with the stock 901, but next time I may increase 5th.
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IronHillRestorations |
May 5 2013, 08:14 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
A 3.0 is a great engine for your 914. ......(faint whisper) go the distance.... Depending on what you are doing with the car, you may not need an external oil cooler, but I'd plan on it. CIS isn't the most optimal system, but if it's right it's good, I like carbs or Motronic.
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moparrob |
May 5 2013, 09:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
The CIS injection sits a bit high for our car's engine bay. If you use the Rich Johnson mount to install the engine (recommended) you will need to mount it one inch lower than if you use Webers.
Some eye candy of my 3.0: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i954.photobucket.com-11663-1367809236.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i954.photobucket.com-11663-1367809236.2.jpg) DO IT!! |
iamchappy |
May 5 2013, 09:10 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The 3.0 is a great engine almost bullet proof, it is a good up grade, and the engine can be modified into anything.
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moparrob |
May 5 2013, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
The 3.0 is a great engine almost bullet proof, it is a good up grade, and the engine can be modified into anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Chappy's engine rocks.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
Van914 |
May 6 2013, 03:42 AM
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Van914 Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 90 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
3.0 is a great motor for a 914. I put PMO 40mm carbs on mine and recurved the distrubitor.. The stock gears are fine. I had a short geared box and went back to stock, with 195/65X15 tires. A front cooler is a must if you do any spirited driving. Trouble free and fast.
Good luck and enjoy Van |
Jeffs9146 |
May 6 2013, 10:35 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE The CIS injection sits a bit high for our car's engine bay. If you use the Rich Johnson mount to install the engine (recommended) you will need to mount it one inch lower than if you use Webers. If you modify your FI the way I did everything fits normal without having to lower the engine mount or cut the trunk! Attached thumbnail(s) |
moparrob |
May 6 2013, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
QUOTE The CIS injection sits a bit high for our car's engine bay. If you use the Rich Johnson mount to install the engine (recommended) you will need to mount it one inch lower than if you use Webers. If you modify your FI the way I did everything fits normal without having to lower the engine mount or cut the trunk! Details, please! |
Jeffs9146 |
May 6 2013, 10:54 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE The CIS injection sits a bit high for our car's engine bay. If you use the Rich Johnson mount to install the engine (recommended) you will need to mount it one inch lower than if you use Webers. If you modify your FI the way I did everything fits normal without having to lower the engine mount or cut the trunk! Details, please! It is your stock FI with a replacement air box mounted sideways and down with a custom intake hose from the AFR to the throttle body! Here is a photo of the early Volvo 242 AFR mount that I used! You can see the mounts I welded in here. I tapped the intake runners to add the mounting bolts! Here is a photo of the intake I welded up with the vacuume hole! Here is the cut out intake |
SirAndy |
May 6 2013, 11:54 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,686 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
You can see the mounts I welded in here. I tapped the intake runners to add the mounting bolts! That looks familiar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I really like the way this all turned out. You have to give me a ride one of these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Jeffs9146 |
May 6 2013, 11:57 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Yea, thanks for all the help Andy!!
Compaired to your car mine is a slugggggggg but it is plenty fun for me!!! |
montoya 73 2.0 |
May 7 2013, 01:14 AM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
I agree, looks good!
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