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Elliot_Cannon
post May 20 2003, 09:43 PM
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I've been reading alot about removing the tar on the floor pans lately. My floors look great inside and out. Can't see any rust under the car. I would like to get by without scraping the tar off. Is there any way you can determine if there is rust under the tar without scraping it all up? It looks like a very labor intensive job. I try to avoid hard work whenever I can but I am finding that to be impossible when working on a 30 year old car.
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post May 21 2003, 12:38 AM
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Do you have a crystal ball? If so, tell Muller the right 6 numbers so he can buy that new car he wants.

Only way to know if there is rust under the tar is to take it up. I'm betting that there is. Think 99% of the ppls that have looked under theirs have found it.

Heat gun, scraper, wire wheel and POR15.......
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post May 21 2003, 12:53 AM
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Seriously, it's a 2-3hr job to remove the tar if you have the interior stripped already, have a heat gun and a putty knife. I did it in a little over 2hrs, and I'm an amateur.

The hard work comes after that. The clean up. But it's really worth it if
1. you find out there's no rust in your floor pans, or
2. you find there is rust, but you caught it in time to repair it.

Catch 22. Sorry. I'd vote foryou do it.

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post May 21 2003, 01:06 AM
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See...the voice of one of the 99% (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 21 2003, 03:58 AM
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So what is the recommended treatment after taking the tar up, fixing any rust and painting with POR-15? Does anybody put tar or other sound deadening material back on? I suppose some padding and carpeting would help but the sound deadening material that is bonded to the panel does a better job because it lowers the natural frequency of the panel.

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post May 21 2003, 09:35 AM
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I've started going at the rust areas with a wire bristle wheel attached to an electric drill. After that's done, yes, I believe I will be introduced to the art of POR-15-ing.

I heard Andy talking about sticking sound deadening material to the underside of the carpet. That way you can lift it up and check for water anytime you want. Sounds good to me!

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post May 21 2003, 11:50 AM
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after the cleanup, make sure you put "Metal-Ready" on first, then POR-15 ...

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post May 21 2003, 11:58 AM
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What's that??

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post May 21 2003, 11:59 AM
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Ah rats!!! I guess I knew what the answer was going to be to this question. I guess I am basically lazy and was hoping someone had a magical answer that would... Ah rats!!! OK so I need a heat gun. I guess my wifes hair drier wont do huh? How about a butane torch? How about I quit screwing around on the computer and get to work? Thanks to all for the good advice. (Now...where did I leave that putty knife?)
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post May 21 2003, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ May 21 2003, 10:58 AM)
What's that??

the stuff that turns your rust into something else (better?) ...

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post May 21 2003, 01:18 PM
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use a $5 plumbers torch, works great.
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post May 21 2003, 01:21 PM
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SirAndy Posted on May 21 2003, 11:50 AM
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after the cleanup, make sure you put "Metal-Ready" on first, then POR-15 ...

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What's that??  


POR-15 Metal Ready FAQ
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post May 21 2003, 07:40 PM
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So far so good! I used my butane torch and scraped up a 6x6 inch patch of tar. All I found under it so far is clean shiney metal!! Then I ran out of butane. The small patch I did though came off really easy. Looks like a Home Depot run for more butane.
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post May 22 2003, 12:54 AM
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12$ heat gun from Harbor freight... when you knock it over it doesnt light the car on fire.

I told Jenny to heat the tar just in front of her puddy knife as she scraped. Works like a charm.


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post May 22 2003, 04:23 AM
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Tar removal- this works if you can find one

called a blaster tool, made by Wurth

has rotating metal prongs
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