Mr. Bubblehead's Cone scerws, coppied from another thread |
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Mr. Bubblehead's Cone scerws, coppied from another thread |
JoeSharp |
Sep 6 2013, 03:32 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
As stated in the title, this is Doug's idea from Elliot's thread. RRC, Why I didn't make it.
"i hate those cone screws. i grind the same pointed profile on a hex head bolt. then drill a 1/16 hole thru the head and saftey wire it. way easier to put in and take out.... AND you can reuse them." |
JoeSharp |
Sep 6 2013, 03:34 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the tip Doug. It is such a good tip I just thought everyone should see this.
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bulitt |
Sep 6 2013, 04:56 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
I wonder if the cone screws like a set screw are case hardened for strength?
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SLITS |
Sep 6 2013, 07:32 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
BTDT
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0396 |
Sep 6 2013, 07:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Pictures for those that have no idea of part - please
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Bartlett 914 |
Sep 6 2013, 08:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I wonder if the cone screws like a set screw are case hardened for strength? They are set screws. They are not specially hardened. I have made these. Pretty simple lathe job. After I furn the taper, I machine a 1/8" spot with a ball end mill for a 1/8" nylon ball. This is what is needed to help keep it from vibrating loose like as used in a Nylock nut. I would never trust a hand ground screw. This is trouble looking to happen. |
DBCooper |
Sep 6 2013, 08:35 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
"I would never trust a hand ground screw. This is trouble looking to happen."
Unfortunately not many of us have the access to milling equipment that you have, so what you're suggesting isn't really an option. Could you elaborate on that statement, that you'd "never trust"? Especially in comparison to a standard set screw without safety wire. If the profile is reasonably close and it's safety wired it should engage well and not move, so I'm trying to imagine how it could fail. Also, if you have access to that equipment, would you consider making a few boxes of those modified screws that one of our member-vendors could sell? Thanks |
JWest |
Sep 6 2013, 09:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None |
Also, if you have access to that equipment, would you consider making a few boxes of those modified screws that one of our member-vendors could sell? Thanks I have these already if you are looking for something to purchase. JWest locking cone screws |
jim_hoyland |
Sep 6 2013, 09:26 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,318 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Are there 2 cone screws required or just one ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 6 2013, 09:41 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Lotta fuss over a readily available, and inexpensive, part. 901 424 229 00. Google it. Anywhere from under 3 bucks to a little over 6 bucks at Stoddard. Sometimes it's good to be a CSOB, other times it's pissin' in the wind.
The Cap'n |
McMark |
Sep 6 2013, 10:18 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Cap'n beat me to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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sean_v8_914 |
Sep 6 2013, 10:38 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
LOL!!!
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Bartlett 914 |
Sep 6 2013, 11:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Lotta fuss over a readily available, and inexpensive, part. 901 424 229 00. Google it. Anywhere from under 3 bucks to a little over 6 bucks at Stoddard. Sometimes it's good to be a CSOB, other times it's pissin' in the wind. The Cap'n True enough. The problem is unless you want to stock them, you must order them and pay for shipping. Here in the Midwest that means California or Atlanta. A 10 minute lathe job works for me. I now just install a new 1/8" nylon ball in the old screw and reuse them. A pack of 100 balls costs less than 1 screw. As far as not trusting a hand ground screw, you run into trouble if there is some movement between the hole and the screw cone. This can work loose. You also run the risk of damaging the hole making a new screw not fit correct. |
rhodyguy |
Sep 6 2013, 11:32 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
you'll require 2 of james' screws with the locking nut. just like always.
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mrbubblehead |
Sep 6 2013, 12:11 PM
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Twodollardoug Group: Members Posts: 1,155 Joined: 17-December 10 From: calimesa ca. Member No.: 12,492 Region Association: Southern California |
thanks joe.... no fuss to make really. a quick twist on a bench grinder or an angle grinder even. can be removed with a simple cresent wrench if need be.
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worn |
Sep 6 2013, 01:29 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,163 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Lotta fuss over a readily available, and inexpensive, part. 901 424 229 00. Google it. Anywhere from under 3 bucks to a little over 6 bucks at Stoddard. Sometimes it's good to be a CSOB, other times it's pissin' in the wind. The Cap'n To quote Jerry Jeff: That the answer my friend is just pissin' in the wind The answer is pissin' in the sink |
DBCooper |
Sep 6 2013, 01:43 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
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Nine_14 |
Sep 6 2013, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 30-August 12 From: Germany Member No.: 14,873 Region Association: Germany |
Lotta fuss over a readily available, and inexpensive, part. 901 424 229 00. Google it. Anywhere from under 3 bucks to a little over 6 bucks at Stoddard. Sometimes it's good to be a CSOB, other times it's pissin' in the wind. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Cap'n, i will become problems with my midriff this night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
balljoint |
Sep 6 2013, 02:55 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
Lotta fuss over a readily available, and inexpensive, part. 901 424 229 00. Google it. Anywhere from under 3 bucks to a little over 6 bucks at Stoddard. Sometimes it's good to be a CSOB, other times it's pissin' in the wind. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Cap'n, i will become problems with my midriff this night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I think that means he is "busting a gut" laughing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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