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Underbody sway bar |
r_towle |
Oct 24 2013, 05:53 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Is there some trick to get the underbody sway bar back into the bushings?
The geometry says no way..... I had to take off a control arm to heat up the nut on the ball joint so I could get it off. Now I cannot get the control arm in the cross member with the sway bar in the bushing, and if I take out the sway bar, and put the control arm in the cross member, I cannot possibly bend the sway bar enough to get it to line up with the bushing. |
jimkelly |
Oct 24 2013, 06:03 PM
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r_towle |
Oct 24 2013, 07:17 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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carr914 |
Oct 24 2013, 09:42 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I hope someone has an Answer as I'm close to putting mine on and after looking at it, I came to the same conclusion - How the Fuch is this going on?
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toolguy |
Oct 24 2013, 09:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Push one side through its bushing further, then the other side will slide in. .
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Jeff Hail |
Oct 24 2013, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
It can be done in the car. Suspension at full droop. Use soapy water or glycerine on the outer bushings. Install one side about an inch into the control arm bushing and then the other side. Keep the middle of the bar down off the crossmember brackets. Wiggle, push, rubber mallet towards the front of the car. It will go in. When the veins in your forehead start coming out .. you are almost there.Then push the bar upward the into the brackets on the crossmember and tighten everything up.
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carr914 |
Oct 24 2013, 10:29 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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balljoint |
Oct 25 2013, 05:15 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
Some red wine and Sade will also help.
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jimkelly |
Oct 25 2013, 05:29 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
pic is not mine - but for reference only.
it seemed to me that it needs to be fully assembled before install and installed as one assy - but someone above says no. look forward to seeing how you like it. jim |
r_towle |
Oct 25 2013, 06:47 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
It can be done in the car. Suspension at full droop. Use soapy water or glycerine on the outer bushings. Install one side about an inch into the control arm bushing and then the other side. Keep the middle of the bar down off the crossmember brackets. Wiggle, push, rubber mallet towards the front of the car. It will go in. When the veins in your forehead start coming out .. you are almost there.Then push the bar upward the into the brackets on the crossmember and tighten everything up. All done. So, lots of lube. Push one bar about 2 inches past the end of the bushing. Keep the sway bar cross bar brackets in the correct orientation....you will see what I mean... Get a long screw driver and from below lever the sway bar end against the strut... It will just about make it. I set everything up, tried a few times, wrote my two threads on here and PP, had some food...went out a forced the damn thing in place. My arms were tired at the end of it.. rich |
r_towle |
Oct 25 2013, 06:52 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
pic is not mine - but for reference only. it seemed to me that it needs to be fully assembled before install and installed as one assy - but someone above says no. look forward to seeing how you like it. jim I don't see why with the proper lift, like a motorcycle lift, you could not do the whole thing at once... Then its 8 or 10 fasteners...done. If I was at the point you are TC....I would aim for that...clean and assembled out of the car, then get George over there for a bit and move the whole thing in one shot. That Sway bar makes it worth the effort to assemble it outside the car, where you have room to wiggle everything. Really stupid design. Why change a good design of the through body bar with what looks like a total afterthought....and its not adjustable...and its damn near impossible to install. |
Dave_Darling |
Oct 25 2013, 12:42 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Because it was cheaper to build. Just bend up the bar, weld the brackets onto the A-arms, and a couple of bushings, and that's it.
Through-body setups require the bar (straight, but with machined ends), plus the lever arms (forget the actual name) plus the drop-links, with bushings at each end. plus the A-arm bracket, plus cutting a hole in the car, plus welding on the nuts to retain the bar, plus the bushing holders... It's a bit more of a pain to install, but it takes less time when initially assembling on the factory production line. So it's much cheaper in the end. --DD |
balljoint |
Oct 25 2013, 05:33 PM
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Wait wait wait!
Does this mean the flares are all done? |
r_towle |
Oct 25 2013, 07:05 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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