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> my search for a 914..., no room for a project yet...but Im still looking for one
2mAn
post Dec 18 2013, 03:07 PM
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Some of you may have seen the few threads Ive been posting about picking up the 74 roller from Noel (ndfrigi). We've come to an agreement and tomorrow I will be making it official!

Here are some pics I took when I went and saw the car a few weeks ago. He purchased it and removed the interior and some other parts. I will be getting it as a rolling chassis, which is exactly what I was looking for.

This is where it currently sits. The other 914 in the background is his.
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These pics show all the bad stuff. I believe the car sat for a while outside, but since this is SoCal, it shouldnt be too much work to fix the rust.

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I plan on adding some GT style front fenders to match the rears, not sure about metal or fiberglass yet. We'll see...

These are the best pics I could get of the battery tray and hell hole, overall it doesnt look too intimidating, but we'll see how bad it is once the engine is out of the way

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Heres the pics of the longs, couldnt get a better pic of the pass side since there was another car right next to it

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and this is the rest of the bad stuff...

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and heres the pic of the "interior"
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post Dec 18 2013, 03:14 PM
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So the current plan is as follows:
-fix the rust on the longs
-see what the hell hole looks like
-strip away tar on the interior floor and POR15 the rust
-knock out the rear dent and fix trunk rust
-convert to 5x130
-GT flares up front to match the rear flares
-all new rubber seals

Body will probably be primer white, engine will be a carb'd 1625cc watercooled VW engine that I've always wanted to build. Eventually it will get more, but thats the initial plan. Once you guys get to know me, you will see that my plan will change A LOT! haha
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post Dec 18 2013, 03:22 PM
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......, but since this is SoCal, it shouldnt be too much work to fix the rust.



Good luck with that.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Congratulations on the car. I hope you like to weld! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

On a 914 rust is ALWAYS worse than it appears
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post Dec 18 2013, 03:29 PM
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Ooooooo...Deja Vu

Those fenders rot inside out and will not be easy.

But they are doable, everything is.....

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I had to fab, doing it again I would do my best to find transplants!




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post Dec 18 2013, 03:42 PM
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Longs are toast. Judging by the scale on the floorboards by the firewall I bet the firewall is ate up with rust. Font fenders and cowl are obvious. Hell hole is most likely rusty. Rear trunk has an obvious hole...more than likely will need a new pan. Rear trunk lid is shot. Hard to tell but looks like bubbling on the sail panels?

How is the front trunk?
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post Dec 18 2013, 03:53 PM
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wow, this is disappointing. in his thread most people said it wasnt bad, now that its mine you're saying its toast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Dec 18 2013, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(2mAn @ Dec 18 2013, 01:53 PM) *
wow, this is disappointing. in his thread most people said it wasnt bad, now that its mine you're saying its toast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Naaaa, it's not toast. It's rusty but not terminal as far as i can see.
All the parts you need are available from RD and if you're handy with a welder, this can be done.
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Don't listen to them guys ...
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post Dec 18 2013, 04:16 PM
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once you cut out the rust, you will know better.

maybe the rust is isolated to the area closest to the jack points, if so, you'll be golden.

once you can see all typical rusty areas better, let us know how your rust compares to the rust areas in pics attached.

maybe you have a good budget but I would stick with 4x130 and go back to narrow on the rear.

what is your budget?
I assume you are good with a welder?

may be near you?
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post Dec 18 2013, 04:28 PM
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Holy cow. The step "-see what the hell hole looks like" should be taken before making a deal. I hope you got this heap super cheap and love metal fabrication, because you have a butt load of work to do.

I'm not raining on your parade - I would take on a project like this. I just hope you didn't pay much up front and you can dump a lot of money and work into it.

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post Dec 18 2013, 04:34 PM
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I did not mean to come off negative. Just humored by the comment that the rust would be easy to fix as it was a California car. Rust is rust. They all have it and it can all be fixed. Same effort though no matter where you are.

Don't be discouraged. Make it safe and drive the crap out of it. Nobody said I made a good decision when I bought my car which spent it's life on the salted roads of Maine. Now it is a head turner. Yours will be too.

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post Dec 18 2013, 04:51 PM
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Sorry to come across so hard.

The reality is that your car will be a major project. It's better to have a clear view of what you are getting into. If you can do most of the bodywork yourself you will be much further ahead.

Mechanical work is cheap....bodywork is where the money will be spent.

Check out the thread on my green car detailing the work scotty b performed.

You should always start out with the best car you can.
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post Dec 18 2013, 05:19 PM
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That's just rust. Easily cut out. Now, let's get on to the important matters here. Could you get us a close up of your avatar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 18 2013, 05:26 PM
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I knew this wasnt going to be a walk in the park, but as I plan on installing complete fiberglass front fenders I wasnt planning on dealing with the rust on the front fenders. I knew the longs and the hell hole would need work, but they all do, right?

As far as how much I got it for, lets just say the front fenders will cost more than the car.

If you are sneaky you can find some more pics in my photobucket, nothing is locked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 18 2013, 05:32 PM
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Don't be discouraged by negative talk. That rust is a fraction of what has been restored on this site. One section at a time you could fix it up. Good luck and
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post Dec 18 2013, 05:39 PM
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I would avoid the POR 15 if it were me. I am sure that it is good stuff if you prep carefully first, but I have a bunch on my car and am not impressed. The PO of my car just applied it over the rust and everything just kept of rusting underneath it. I have used the Ospho and it seems pretty good. I don't now that Ospho is particularly special, just an acid based rust converter.
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post Dec 18 2013, 06:38 PM
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I bought my first 914 from "Honest Rob" and then found all the hidden faults.

If there isn't any thing to do to the car, what's the point in the build. If you are going water cooled you probably wont need the battery tray and support or the engine trays, That's a big saving. Straight sheet metal isn't that hard to repair but the restoration design parts save a huge amount of time and stress as they are very nicely made and fit well.

Post pics of the shell so we can all see the extent of the corrosion and maybe give you some positive advice.

Forgot to add, Fixing the hell hole is you right of passage into the 914 world.

Attached is my experience. If I did it again I would do some things differently but I still enjoyed the process if not the cost burden. If you would like some positive encouragement drop me a line.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...s-914-club.html


Cheers and Good luck
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post Dec 18 2013, 06:45 PM
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there will be more pics soon when Noel and I yank the engine/ trans out
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i always wondered what 914 would look like with just the rear flares. I like it
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Strip the car all the way down and give it to a sand blasting shop. Ok use walnuts and it better. When you get the car back, see how much of it is still solid. Then start patching.
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QUOTE(2mAn @ Dec 18 2013, 04:26 PM) *

I knew this wasnt going to be a walk in the park, but as I plan on installing complete fiberglass front fenders I wasnt planning on dealing with the rust on the front fenders. I knew the longs and the hell hole would need work, but they all do, right?

As far as how much I got it for, lets just say the front fenders will cost more than the car.

If you are sneaky you can find some more pics in my photobucket, nothing is locked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


My concern is that you understand how to repair the structural parts. Fiberglass fenders will not fix what I'm worried about. Again, please don't mistake my words as negative or naysaying, but rather to please be aware of where your car is structurally weak and needs serious metal work.

The first concern is the hell hole...... The area under the battery tray and forward as it has eaten into the very important structural part of your car that you haven't yet discovered how severe it really is.

Please dig into this before starting the work on fenders.
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