Rear alignment question, I want the wheels straight |
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Rear alignment question, I want the wheels straight |
skline |
Dec 30 2004, 10:43 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I look at my car from the back and the drivers side wheel is straight up and down, the passenger side is tilted in at the top. Do I add or remove shims to bring it upright?
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Aaron Cox |
Dec 30 2004, 10:44 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
add shims for positive camber IIRC
my car has no shims and -2 deg camber (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
skline |
Dec 30 2004, 10:51 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, mine has 3 in there and it is visibly tilted inward at the top. I am not liking it either. I dont recall it being like that before moving the car around.
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Aaron Cox |
Dec 30 2004, 10:56 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
bent? i could be wrong....IIRC shims = + camber (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) |
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Duffster |
Dec 30 2004, 11:01 PM
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OFWG Group: Benefactors Posts: 258 Joined: 29-August 03 From: Riverside, CA Member No.: 1,087 |
I'm not sure that this much application, as that Shalom has pretty good wheel well cut outs, but FWIW I'm running about 4 degrees negative to clear the fatties on the rear of mine. If you wind up with those red thangs on it, you'll want some negative camber... limited of course by how much you feel like grinding off the inner fender wells (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)
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SirAndy |
Dec 30 2004, 11:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
that's not gud! add shims for +, remove for - ... usually, if you have a lot of shims and still - camber, your trailing arms are bend !!! ask me how i know ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif) Andy |
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skline |
Dec 31 2004, 12:02 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Can they be bending right now? I have the boxed trailing arm stiffeners welded on but I would swear it is getting worse.
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Aaron Cox |
Dec 31 2004, 12:05 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) did they warp when you welded on the kit? how could it be getting worse? check your bushings for wear, check the suspension ear for ovaling |
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skline |
Dec 31 2004, 12:10 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
My other concern is my front spoiler, I cant even get my shoe under the front lip of the spoiler. The toes go under but it hits on the instep of my foot. It couldnt be more than 3 inches from the ground to the spoiler. That seems a bit low to me. It looks pretty cool but being fiberglass, it wont last long going in driveways. I need to bring it up to at least 4 or 5 inches. Anybody want to come help me set it up so I can get clearance?
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jim912928 |
Dec 31 2004, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If you think your camber is changing noticeably...I'd check your bushings. If they are the original they might be disintrating in chunks as we speak since they are now being stressed. Maybe they also got too hot/hard/brittle after the welding and they are breaking away?
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Mueller |
Dec 31 2004, 11:43 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
make sure your rear springs are seated correctly, one side might not be in position after raising and lowering the car????
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Joe Bob |
Dec 31 2004, 12:03 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I have extra shims if you need them....the boxed arms are REAL easy to warp unless they were in a jig when welding. I fuched them up on the Rocket....had to do it twice.
As to the front spoiler....."I" used a stiff rubber lip and cut the fiberglass up a bit.....I am always doing a kamikaze on speed bumps, steep driveways and curbs...... BTW...you can get the shims when ya come up for the trailer..... |
SirAndy |
Dec 31 2004, 01:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
double check your suspension console and make sure it's not cracked ... they start sagging when they crack. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) Andy |
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Jeffs9146 |
Dec 31 2004, 01:57 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Check your suspension ear! It could be ovaled out! Jeff |
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Jeffs9146 |
Dec 31 2004, 02:00 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
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Chris Julian |
Dec 31 2004, 02:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 19-March 04 From: SF Bay area Member No.: 1,821 |
Scott, double check the large castle nuts. If you recall I had this issue (loose nuts- he he) a while back and it kicked the tire out (or in @ the top) by close to 1/2".
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