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| Qarl |
 Mar 15 2014, 09:15 PM
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Shriveled member  Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None   |
For those that have a roll cage (full or half), what has been the solution for the rear targa latches and rear targa pad with use of the top?
I would like to install a GT-style half-cage like McMark makes in the conversion car ... but not sure about the back pad, and access to the latches. (I have regular sized hands). I'd like to maintain use of the targa top (drive with on or off). I'd rather not weld on tabs and convert the roof to bolt on! Can you share pics and experiences, please? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-419-1290966307_thumb.jpg) |
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| brant |
Mar 15 2014, 09:27 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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roll cages in a street car aren't too safe
others will disagree.... and no disrespect to Mark's fine work... but head injuries aren't fun ask yourself if this would pass federal crash standards for head injury? unless you want to wear a helmet on the commute to work? (and very tight 5 points... perhaps a hans too) |
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| Qarl |
Mar 15 2014, 09:28 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(brant @ Mar 15 2014, 11:27 PM)  roll cages in a street car aren't too safe others will disagree.... and no disrespect to Mark's fine work... but head injuries aren't fun ask yourself if this would pass federal crash standards for head injury? unless you want to wear a helmet on the commute to work? (and very tight 5 points... perhaps a hans too) The whole car wouldn't pass crash standards. I'm not set on it. Just toying with the idea. To clarify, it's not a full-cage. And the car does/will have properly installed 5-point harness with welded in backing plates. |
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| brant |
Mar 15 2014, 09:32 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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the whole car doesn't have metal/steel placed within head's reach...
the steering wheel and A-pillars are padded... that was a crash standard then and now. nah... its fine as long as you have a helmet on..... |
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| VegasRacer |
Mar 16 2014, 02:33 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,523 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None
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I have had 2 teeners with full cages. Access for the rear targa latches was never a problem. The front ones were a bitch on both cars.
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| Maltese Falcon |
Mar 16 2014, 09:23 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,685 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
When I designed +mandrel bent my cage in the black 6, my first rule of thumb was actually my thumb !
I use my hand as a guide for clearance prior to final shaping+welding. The rear at the padded vinyl area allows for latch operation. The roll bar up front just under the windshield frame at the left + right upper corners, makes a small jog which allows easy latch access. I'll send some pics along after AT+T finishes up my data problem this week. I haven't seen any brand name 914 roll bars done this way...but its an easy enough change-up to program into the mandrel bender. Due to liability, I don't mfg. Roll cages/bars in the product line. Marty |
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| iamchappy |
Mar 16 2014, 10:21 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Make a special tool..... With my roll bar in i cant open the engine lid. if i remount it i am going to shorten the side bars and mount the rear bar forward an inch.
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| Elliot Cannon |
Mar 16 2014, 11:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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The Screaming Yellow Zonker had a full roll cage. One of the reasons I sold the car (besides the three trips to traffic school) was the difficulty getting my old ass in and out of the car. A roll bar like the one McMark makes might be a good idea. A FULL roll cage might be safe for the track but not so much for the street. The roof of the Zonker was very easy to install and remove. It had normal latches front and rear and didn't need any special tools or techniques. I can be done with careful measuring.
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| Mike Bellis |
Mar 16 2014, 11:55 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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My roll cage prevents the use of front latches. I removed them since the bar is in the way. On the rear, it takes two hands to get each latch locked down.
Top stays on with little or no rattles. |
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