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door glass separated from vertical channel |
era vulgaris |
May 27 2014, 03:36 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
My driver's side door glass separated from the vertical channel it slides up and down in. I think the new scraper seals I installed where causing too much friction.
Has this happened to anyone else? What's the best adhesive to use to re-glue it? Thanks! |
bulitt |
May 27 2014, 03:48 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
You can buy this at advance auto. @ 24$ Not cheap, Wmart might have it for less?
Needs to set up for 24 hours. Or swing by an auto glass installer- they may give you a shot for free. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-13632-1350947877.jpg) |
Dave_Darling |
May 27 2014, 04:23 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Before you glue anything to anything else, it's best to be very clear what is supposed to be permanently attached to what.
If the other side is working well, take the door cards off both and see what the differences are between the two. --DD |
era vulgaris |
May 27 2014, 05:11 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
You can buy this at advance auto. @ 24$ Not cheap, Wmart might have it for less? Needs to set up for 24 hours. Or swing by an auto glass installer- they may give you a shot for free. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-13632-1350947877.jpg) Thanks, I'll give that a try! Before you glue anything to anything else, it's best to be very clear what is supposed to be permanently attached to what. If the other side is working well, take the door cards off both and see what the differences are between the two. --DD I've had both door cards off completely already to compare. There's a metal bracket that slides up and down in a channel in the piece the vent glass is attached to. This metal bracket that slides up and down is what the glass on the driver's side became detached from. There's blackish adhesive residue on the window from where it was affixed inside the metal bracket. |
mskala |
May 27 2014, 06:03 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
I don't know the right stuff, or I would have fixed mine. But it can't be that
windo-weld, that is like a caulk or windshield adhesive. What you need is a very thin adhesive that will work on glass-to-metal and suitable for automotive temps. |
bulitt |
May 27 2014, 06:40 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
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mskala |
May 27 2014, 07:42 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
The pre-73 door system is different. Unless I'm mistaken, he's talking about the metal channel that has rollers on it and is on the leading edge of the window. This metal channel is only as wide as the glass, there would be no room for a thick adhesive. |
era vulgaris |
May 27 2014, 08:50 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
The pre-73 door system is different. Unless I'm mistaken, he's talking about the metal channel that has rollers on it and is on the leading edge of the window. This metal channel is only as wide as the glass, there would be no room for a thick adhesive. Yup, you're correct. It's the channel on the front edge of the window. Is there any way to re-attach it? I was thinking about this stuff maybe? http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/sg_glass/...-Glass-Glue.htm |
Mikey914 |
May 27 2014, 10:36 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The windshield Urethane will definately work. Probably the best bet. The other option is epoxy. You can get these in premeasuerd "cups" at any good glass shop. It's what they use for puttin the rear view mirrors on when they replace a windshield.
Should be around $6 a pop. Cheaper than the Urethane, will set fast. Just make sure you degrease the glass and the inside of the track so nothing will inhibit the bond. |
rhodyguy |
May 28 2014, 08:25 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Plan on replacing item(s) #6 and 7 (if you can source them). While you're " in there" plan on cleaning the convoluted window winder assemblies and ensure the window raises easily.
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Mikey914 |
May 28 2014, 10:20 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yes I have items 6 and 7 if you need them
http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Early-window...lers-914EWR.htm |
McMark |
May 28 2014, 05:01 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I used windshield Urethane to glue mine back in place. That stuff is REALLY strong. Looks like the 3M stuff mentioned above is the same stuff.
I believe Mark S. (mskala) is thinking of the 'WindoWeld' that comes in a roll (butyl) which is thick and wouldn't work at all for this. The stuff above (urethane) is really gooey and thin when you first goop it on. It gets everywhere. Wear gloves and don't wipe it on anything. Don't worry about excess getting on the glass or squeezing out. You can trim it up with a razor blade later. |
era vulgaris |
May 29 2014, 04:46 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
Do you think I need to remove the window from the door to do this?
I'm not sure how that vertical channel is removed from the vent glass pillar. Or does that entire pillar need to be removed from the door with the vent glass? |
McMark |
May 29 2014, 05:00 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
There are two screws at the top of the runner channel. Remove those and the top-black-corner piece will pop off. Then the runner will come out the top.
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mskala |
May 29 2014, 05:48 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
I used windshield Urethane to glue mine back in place. That stuff is REALLY strong. Looks like the 3M stuff mentioned above is the same stuff. I believe Mark S. (mskala) is thinking of the 'WindoWeld' that comes in a roll (butyl) which is thick and wouldn't work at all for this. The stuff above (urethane) is really gooey and thin when you first goop it on. It gets everywhere. Wear gloves and don't wipe it on anything. Don't worry about excess getting on the glass or squeezing out. You can trim it up with a razor blade later. Cool; if it's thin then that should do the trick. When I get around to mine I will try it too. |
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