Which 911 oil tanks for a six?, can they even be used? |
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Which 911 oil tanks for a six?, can they even be used? |
DougC |
Jan 18 2005, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 949 Joined: 6-July 04 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 2,307 |
If not, what are my other options in a nutshell..don't want to read through those long post for info that might not be there. Also, what else will I need, filler neck and lid? stainless hoses, etc?
Doug C |
brant |
Jan 18 2005, 04:46 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
None of the 911 ones will fit in the stock location.
however it has been done before... People have placed one in a different location. I've seen a pic of a rear trunk placement, although I wouldn't think that is such a great place to move weight to. If your going to use a non stock location you can also buy a racing oil tank, and put it in the front trunk or something... but any non-stock location is going to have its trade-offs and you will loose space or have to buy long more plumbing. |
Mueller |
Jan 18 2005, 04:46 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
yes, it can be used, but not in the original /6 location...you have to get "creative" with how and where it's mounted (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) ...I've seen it done.....
no idea about the hoses and such.... |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 18 2005, 04:46 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The 914/6 oil tank fits right, no 911 one fits, AFIK. I prefer the stock oil lines. SS braided hoses are a leak waiting to happen. Look racy, though. With the tank, you'll need the filler neck, the oil filter console, and some seals, gaskets, and o-rings. Oh, a dipstick, too. HTH, The Cap'n
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DougC |
Jan 18 2005, 05:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 949 Joined: 6-July 04 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 2,307 |
thanks for clearing that up guys..
Doug C |
Trekkor |
Jan 18 2005, 08:40 PM
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Hey! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) Here's a nugget from mine... Vellios Aluminum tank. Factory location and large capacity. KT Attached image(s) |
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Trekkor |
Jan 18 2005, 08:51 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Factory location is an easy choice... All holes are marked ( almost ). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
Easy install. KT Attached image(s) |
Dr Evil |
Jan 18 2005, 08:59 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You can get the odds and ends in the resources section from Rich Johnson. Great guy.
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John |
Jan 19 2005, 01:26 AM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
What? Perhaps the cheap-o ones are a leak waiting to happen, but I only use teflon lined ss braided hoses for oil lines. I go to the hydraulic hose store and they happily make up hoses for me with proper hydraulic fittings instead of those aluminum ones I see so often. We went with a round tank and mounted it up front (Peterson Enterprises I believe). It even has a drain on it. (I would recommend getting the sight gauge for it) |
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michel richard |
Jan 19 2005, 06:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
Doug,
If you're doing a conversion, but can't be troubled to read through a bunch of old posts to find information, you should make sure you have the motivation and the staying power to see your project through. Michel Richard 914 2.2 E MFI |
joea9146 |
Jan 19 2005, 07:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Denver, NC Member No.: 283 Region Association: None |
I thought the Hydraulic hoses did not like High Heat.
Do you have Pictures of the fittings ad the Hoses you are using and other Details like Brand Name of Hoses |
John |
Jan 19 2005, 10:34 AM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I'll post a better pic when I get home tonight.
I don't have manufacturing details on the hoses. The guys at the hydraulic stores that I visited told me they were good for the application (actually overkill). It is standard teflon lined stainless steel braided hose with steel fittings. The fittings are all swaged on to the ends of the hoses (not a DIY process). The hose assemblies are rated at something like 1500psi. Never had a hose leak in the 18 years of track time that some of the hoses have seen. From the prices that I have seen for the Earls hoses and fittings, the actual hydraulic lines were less expensive and professionally made up to boot. Attached image(s) |
neo914-6 |
Jan 19 2005, 12:14 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Trekkor, Where'd you get this and what is a good price to pay? Are you running the 901 gearbox? Seems like 2.7's aren't too pricey so I'm thinking 6 again. My car (Bill P's) is set up for it already... |
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DougC |
Jan 19 2005, 01:29 PM
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I was waiting for someone to say something like this.. I probably should have said "re-read" because I've read everything written on this subject for the last few months, atleast on this forum. Actually been researching all forms of conversions and sometimes the info starts running together in my mind, so I didn't want to go back through an 18 page thread for a simple answer. I've started jotting down six notes now. Doug C |
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michel richard |
Jan 19 2005, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
That's allright. I'll be happy to help with your conversion !
I have found that I could buy hydraulic hose that fits the stock hose fittings. I figure that these hoses don't see hundreds of pounds of pressure, certainly not thousands, so my own view is that it's easy to overkill and overspend in this area. These hoses don't see tons of heat either. Normal oil temp is low two hundreds, and if it goes into the three hundreds, you've got a ton of other problems, in any event. Michel |
Root_Werks |
Jan 19 2005, 03:06 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am running the same tank as Trekkor. Bought it new about 2 years ago for around $375. Sat around for another year before I got a 914 to do a conversion on. Good tank, has baffle, fits in stock location, uses later oil filter, already set up for AN fitings. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) |
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Trekkor |
Jan 19 2005, 05:14 PM
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This will hurt...It came out of your car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) I'm running the 901 box. KT |
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Jeroen |
Jan 19 2005, 06:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
anyone know if those Peterson tanks are available with 30mm metric fittings?
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sixnotfour |
Jan 19 2005, 06:47 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/tanks.html
-12 to 30mm adapter needed, You could aways weld on what you want. |
IronHillRestorations |
Jan 19 2005, 09:38 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
The only tanks I'd use would be the (priced as though they are gold plated) factory tanks or the aluminum fabricated tanks that GPR makes. The GPR tank is the lightest oil tank made for a 914-6, uses factory fitings or AN, and bolts up in the stock location. You can use all the factory tank boots, which makes for a very clean install. The factory filler neck fits perfectly too.
I think Veli-hose is out of business, which is just as well. The cast aluminum tanks have some advantages, but are heavy, and then there is lack of customer support, blah, blah. You can't use the factory boots, and they don't fit against the inner fender as well as the factory tanks, or the GPR tank. Also the factory filler neck doesn't fit right either. Yes you can use a aftermarket "generic" tank, and many have done so sucessfully. My opinion is that in the overall scheme of a six conversion, a few hundred dollars more for a oil tank that fits right is spit on the griddle. The dry sump system is the life blood of your six engine so be sure you do it properly. |
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