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| BKLZ |
 Jan 27 2015, 03:34 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None  |
Hi there,
I used to own a 914 which was titled as a 914S. Thinking about it this morning i did a google search and found basically nothing on the car. Does anyone know anything about these? Mine only had a 2.0 tag on the back, had a sideshifter transmission, adjustable height coilovers in the rear, the center console guages, and not sure what else. It didnt have flares like the 6. Unfortunately i sold the car in Ohio after throwing a bearing or something on a cross country trip. Just curious what the s included as an option. The car seemed stock to me however i had no idea that they didnt have coilovers in the back until looking at one years later. Not sure what it had up front for suspension. Just curious. This had 'S' on the title, so i imagine it was factory. Thanks, |
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| G e o r g e |
Jan 27 2015, 03:39 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None 
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it's a myth
, but _______ will enlighten you shortly................ This is where you will find your info |
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| BKLZ |
Jan 27 2015, 03:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None |
i just looked at some pics and i guess 914s did have shocks in the back. I thought they had tortion bars. Mine had a pretty mean sway bar back there. The car handled way better than my fathers old 911.
Did all of the sideshifters have an odd gear pattern? First where second is on any other car ive ever driven? |
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| BKLZ |
Jan 27 2015, 03:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None |
I tried searching and only came up with 914s as in plural. Im on a phone as well so it isnt so easy. I remember the car having special alloy rims and the lug bolts screwed int the hubs, not nuts on bolts coming out of the hub, which i have never seen before. Ill try to find a picture of the car so at least you guys could see the rims. Thanks
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| G e o r g e |
Jan 27 2015, 03:54 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None
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| BKLZ |
Jan 27 2015, 04:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None |
Pretty sure this is the only photo i have of the car.
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| SirAndy |
Jan 27 2015, 04:04 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(BKLZ @ Jan 27 2015, 01:34 PM)  This had 'S' on the title, so i imagine it was factory. The 'S' was a short lived US only *marketing* gimmick. The US titles have nothing to do with Porsche. My CA title proudly displays PORSH in bold letters ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| BKLZ |
Jan 27 2015, 04:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None |
Cant ruin my day, btw. Paid 1100 for the thing and drove the living hell out of it. If it was a speedster that i sold broken down for 600 bucks i might itch every now and then. 914, nah. Lots of fun cars out there. These things sure can handle though.
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2015, 04:17 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(BKLZ @ Jan 27 2015, 02:09 PM) Cant ruin my day, btw. Paid 1100 for the thing and drove the living hell out of it. If it was a speedster that i sold broken down for 600 bucks i might itch every now and then. 914, nah. Lots of fun cars out there. These things sure can handle though. Look at the current prices for really, really nice 914's....mid teens to low 20K is not too unheard of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| BKLZ |
Jan 27 2015, 04:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27-January 15 From: CT, USA Member No.: 18,359 Region Association: None |
I know. I had mine in 99 or so. Id love to have another to really build but cant afford it. I have a 951 on the way which was gifted to me. So expensive to keep up though. I might run this one into the ground too then trade it for a taurus wagon and a race kart (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2015, 04:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(BKLZ @ Jan 27 2015, 02:25 PM) I know. I had mine in 99 or so. Id love to have another to really build but cant afford it. I have a 951 on the way which was gifted to me. So expensive to keep up though. I might run this one into the ground too then trade it for a taurus wagon and a race kart (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There are some things one should never mention in public...hahaha |
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| TJB/914 |
Jan 27 2015, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 27 2015, 05:04 PM) QUOTE(BKLZ @ Jan 27 2015, 01:34 PM) This had 'S' on the title, so i imagine it was factory. The 'S' was a short lived US only *marketing* gimmick. The US titles have nothing to do with Porsche. My CA title proudly displays PORSH in bold letters ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I agree w/Andy, It was a marketing 914-S gimmick that was deleted. Means nothing. I think it was on the 1973 or 74 model advertisement??? Tom Attached image(s) 
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| balljoint |
Jan 27 2015, 05:03 PM
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| rgalla9146 |
Jan 27 2015, 05:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,950 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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Yeah, that's an S alright.
Handled much better than the regular ones. |
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| malcolm2 |
Jan 27 2015, 05:37 PM
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Wasn't the "S" given to the 2.0 as stated above, for marketing?
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| Tom_T |
Jan 27 2015, 06:01 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jan 27 2015, 03:10 PM) Yeah, that's an S alright. Handled much better than the regular ones. You're being repetitively redundant there Mr. Galla ..... Mr Galla! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BTW - boyz & girlz - ANY model name, number, badging, etc. - even the brand or manufacturer name - are ALL marketing ploys[b] - so thank Madison Avenue for this "914S" one - & every other one, since the USA accounted for 40-60% of all Porsche sales worldwide, & Porsche execs listened to the marketing gurus in the USA ... mostly anyway. So not a myth - the "914S" .... but also not an official factory badged model either. It only applied during the 73 MY with "fully loaded" 914-2.0's. In the USA it was a fully loaded with performance group's & appearance group's sets of options included in the base price .... to help those trying to get over the loss of the 914-6. The Porsche+Audi division of VW of America (VoA) had tens or 100's of 1000's of sales brochures (13 & 4 pg glossy brochures & leaflet fliers etc. were printed + the magazine & newspapers ads like the one Tom shows in his post above). So Porsche could hardly claim that they were unaware, as some above claim (of course most of them were not around - or at least not teens/adults in 1972). Porsche initially let it slide, but then somebody complained &/or some exec got uptight & worried that having a "914S" would somehow get confused with or cut into the 911S territory & sales. Porsche has outgrown that since, & you now see the "S" & "GTS" on just about every model .... eventually! Somewhere in early 1973 (+/- Jan-Mar) Porsche told them to stop referring to it as a "914S." About the same time they had problem with the W. German Deutschmark wildly escalating against the dollar after Nixon took the latter off the gold standard - causing all Porsche prices to inflate rapidly, resulting in the $5299 Sept 72 914-2.0 "914S" price to rice to $over $7500 by the end of the 73 MY in June 1973. So P+A & Porsche Germany started offering 914-2.0's without all the option groups - one being called the "914 Sport" by P+A/VoA & US dealers. Dave K on here has a very nice Orange/Black example. Initially Porsche saw no need to even badge the 1.7 & 2.0 differently until the dealers worldwide complained, so it was a late addition & the initial 73 cars had to have the 2 extra holes drilled in the sheet metal, in order to mount the 1.7 or 2.0 badges on the rear face. My 73 2.0 "914S" built in Aug 72 has that quirk, along with a few other early MY oddities. In the UK they they called them 914SC & Porsche never told them to stop marketing them as such there! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Nor did Porsche stop the Japanese (JDM) from marketing them as "914S" there either! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So why would Porsche (Germany) not have a problem in Japan & the UK, but have one here!? And frankly back in the day of 1972 when anticipating the new 2.0L "4" coming out & during initial "914S" sales in that Fall - the story at all the dealerships & according to my mechanic who was sent to Stuttgart & Karmann in 1969 to get certified on the 914 as Circle Porsche+Audi's "914 specialist" (Long Beach CA) - Porsche participated in the development of the "914S" & "914SC" promotional & marketing programs & in coming up with that name. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I was in the dealerships back then (although I couldn't afford to buy my 73 914-2.0 until out of college in `75), & my mechanic was there at the factory in person - & we both heard similar things, as did a few other old timers I know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I personally think that it would've been both a better & easier & more cost effective model differentiation to simply keep the 1.7L & later 1.8L 914s with just the 914 rear badge only - as they'd done since the 1969 release of the 914 (similarly with the RoW market ones with the full VW-Porsche badging) - then simply cast a second 914S badge. Two holes, 2 differing badges - no extra rear face holes to stamp or drill, no extra 1.7, 1.8 & 2.0 badges to cast & carry in stock - done & done!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) And the "S" moniker was completely in keeping with the up-powered 90HP 356 "S" or "Super" & with the up-powered 265-295+ 911S arrangement. As the other poster above linked, there is a post in the Originality & History Forum which I started on the "914S" .... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=107851 Enjoy reading, tell your friends you had a 914S" if you want, & just don't get too bent if some semi-informed hair-dissecting fact-weenie wants to give you a hard time about it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Personally - I plan to have some nice plush Lloyd floor mats embroidered with 914S for my driving comfort & spectator befuddlement!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/white914.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Tom /////// |
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| Tom_T |
Jan 27 2015, 06:10 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Jan 27 2015, 02:47 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 27 2015, 05:04 PM) QUOTE(BKLZ @ Jan 27 2015, 01:34 PM) This had 'S' on the title, so i imagine it was factory. The 'S' was a short lived US only *marketing* gimmick. The US titles have nothing to do with Porsche. My CA title proudly displays PORSH in bold letters ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I agree w/Andy, It was a marketing 914-S gimmick that was deleted. Means nothing. I think it was on the 1973 or 74 model advertisement??? Tom (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-346-1422398773.jpg) Tom, Those ads were only on the 73 MY from early MY Fall 72 - early 73 .... maybe March-ish or April 1973 - when the dealers got their "new" brochures only referring to the 914-2.0 - & until then you got one with 914S in it on the spec page & in the text. Some of those survived after, & can still be found on evil-bay. And as I noted above - I disagree with Andy that Porsche knew nothing about it! They had approval rights over everything that went out beforehand in that multi-million dollar ad & sales literature program. Instead, let's just agree that Porsche changed their mind in the case of the USA & Canadian markets, then made Porsche+Audi/VoA stop & change the program from 914S - but NOT for the UK & Japan! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2015, 06:18 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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Maybe it is from not seeing it much, but 914S does not have the same ring or excitement as seeing or hearing 911S
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 27 2015, 06:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Jan 27 2015, 07:18 PM) Maybe it is from not seeing it much, but 914S does not have the same ring or excitement as seeing or hearing 911S So....... my 914 is getting a 3.0 somewhat close to a RS spec engine... is it OK then to badge it as a 914RS? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistle[1].gif) |
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