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Turbo charge the Porsche 2.0 ?.. Thoughts? |
Beakster |
Aug 14 2015, 06:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 13-August 15 From: Calgary,AB Canada Member No.: 19,055 Region Association: None |
I'm been told to KISS IT ... keep it simple stupid ... I'm better off with taking the 4cyl 2.0 and bore it and putting a turbo on it .. or even going to the VW Turbo engs It would just be an easier job to pull the engine beef it up and put it back in then to look at another big project and more big time dough($$$) on putting the Turbo 3.3 eng and 4sp trans in the 914 .. Anyone around that has Turbo the 2.0? could use some help on this one .... Thanks !
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messix |
Aug 14 2015, 07:09 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
you can't turbo a 914...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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Hank914 |
Aug 14 2015, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 7-April 14 From: CA and OR Member No.: 17,215 Region Association: None |
I'm been told to KISS IT ... keep it simple stupid ... I'm better off with taking the 4cyl 2.0 and bore it and putting a turbo on it .. or even going to the VW Turbo engs It would just be an easier job to pull the engine beef it up and put it back in then to look at another big project and more big time dough($$$) on putting the Turbo 3.3 eng and 4sp trans in the 914 .. Anyone around that has Turbo the 2.0? could use some help on this one .... Thanks ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) It can be done! Don't believe the haters!! Even Porsche did a 911 turbo once, in the 80's I think. Maybe... So a 914 Turbo can be done. It's just waiting for the right guy to do it! You! |
Mike Bellis |
Aug 14 2015, 07:15 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Contact McMark. He has a 1.7 turbo and has been developing a kit.
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messix |
Aug 14 2015, 07:17 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
here's the thread http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...54&hl=turbo
and you might be better off using the 1.7 for this |
mgp4591 |
Aug 14 2015, 07:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,382 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
From talking to Mark, you can't throw a lot of boost at it because it's air cooled and detonation is a huge problem. Mark doesn't run big pressure but his hp is better than stock- it depends on how much power you want. You're not gonna be anywhere near what a Subaru 4 cylinder is in stock form, not to mention with a mild tune. If you're looking for 150 hp or more you need to look elsewhere... Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) !!
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Cairo94507 |
Aug 14 2015, 07:40 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,822 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Drop a six in it and call it a day.
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Mueller |
Aug 14 2015, 07:42 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Another turbo /4 below.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...71&hl=turbo There are at least half a dozen running around...even one using CIS fuel injection which I think your 930 motor uses. |
JmuRiz |
Aug 14 2015, 08:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That turbo 3.3 and trans is worth some money.
You could always sell it to the 911/930 crowd and get a sweet /6 engine to put in the 914. Sounds like your heart is set on turbo power. |
damesandhotrods |
Aug 14 2015, 08:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
What are your honest plans for the car? How deep are your pockets, and how much to you value your time?
Do you just want to drive to work on sunny days and weekends in the country? Do you want to lock yourself in the garage with a project for the next few years? If you are going to autocross or track the car you’re probably going to run into a rule book that should be read first. Are you out to blow minds at the local cars and coffee? |
infraredcalvin |
Aug 14 2015, 08:36 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
Water/meth injection...
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Chris H. |
Aug 14 2015, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,032 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Aw man.... YOU GOT TO SAY IT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)! So rare these days. Yeah if you want to build one call McMark. He's beat on his 1.7t for quite a while. If you want to buy one already done there is no better deal than that 2.5L car in the classifieds. I see McMark and Jake Raby referenced in the ad... |
MSHax |
Aug 14 2015, 09:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-August 15 From: California Bay Area Member No.: 19,039 Region Association: Central California |
You can turbo anything, the question is how much work are you willing to do. I turbo charged way too many things; motorcycles, minivans, even my VW 1600 powered lawn mower. |
Chris914n6 |
Aug 14 2015, 10:29 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,333 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
A built 2.0ish will make more power than a turbo 1.7, it won't like the boost pressures needed to keep up.
What are you starting with, a 2.0? |
jcd914 |
Aug 14 2015, 10:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
If you have the time & money and the 3.3 Turbo, look at iamcappy's build, it is amazing.
iamchappy Turbo Jim |
Mark Henry |
Aug 15 2015, 05:46 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
If you have the time & money and the 3.3 Turbo, look at iamcappy's build, it is amazing. iamchappy Turbo Jim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) If you have a six sitting on the bench I wouldn't even consider a /4. |
tango |
Aug 15 2015, 08:08 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 7-January 05 From: UK Member No.: 3,417 Region Association: None |
Here is what I did. I wanted no cutting to the shell at all. The turbo on the drivers side infront of the axle. I just reworked it a little more to add a ducted IC rather than water/air IC since that would involve water and pipework etc etc.
I like tuning/tweaking and fab work (and testing out the results) and have my own AC TIG but it could be simplified and done with MIG only. I am running a very mild cam, gives great off idle response until the boost takes over and is also less stress on the valve train. My turbo is a smaller GT28R but seems a great match for street. Cheaper T3/4s will do similar I believe, or a plain non ball bearing GT28. There is no need to go with the equal length curly header. Improving the exh valve flow should help, ditch the Sodium valves. There is also no need for extreme valve springs; keep the valve train light instead if possible. I use MS2 (3 module waiting to be fitted) for control including boost. Be cautious tuning on stock pistons, they wont take much knock but the low STD CR is OK for low boost, add copper head gaskets (gasp!) for more boost. Even 7psi will feel amazing and you wont need an IC for that. |
MSHax |
Aug 15 2015, 08:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-August 15 From: California Bay Area Member No.: 19,039 Region Association: Central California |
Here is what I did. I wanted no cutting to the shell at all. The turbo on the drivers side infront of the axle. I just reworked it a little more to add a ducted IC rather than water/air IC since that would involve water and pipework etc etc. I like tuning/tweaking and fab work (and testing out the results) and have my own AC TIG but it could be simplified and done with MIG only. I am running a very mild cam, gives great off idle response until the boost takes over and is also less stress on the valve train. My turbo is a smaller GT28R but seems a great match for street. Cheaper T3/4s will do similar I believe, or a plain non ball bearing GT28. There is no need to go with the equal length curly header. Improving the exh valve flow should help, ditch the Sodium valves. There is also no need for extreme valve springs; keep the valve train light instead if possible. I use MS2 (3 module waiting to be fitted) for control including boost. Be cautious tuning on stock pistons, they wont take much knock but the low STD CR is OK for low boost, add copper head gaskets (gasp!) for more boost. Even 7psi will feel amazing and you wont need an IC for that. Great Work! Looks amazing! Thanks for posting this, it really helps to visualize how its possible |
Maltese Falcon |
Aug 15 2015, 09:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,694 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
You can turbo anything, the question is how much work are you willing to do. I turbo charged way too many things; motorcycles, minivans, even my VW 1600 powered lawn mower. We have an IHI turbo Creeper at our shop, not as tight as in a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Aug 15 2015, 09:56 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I've driven McMark's 1.7L turbo and it feels stronger than a stock 2.0. I would guess a 2.0 liter turbo would be equivalently stronger than a 2.0L.
I don't think McMark will kit this. But if you can write checks, I'd bet he'd build yours for you... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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