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1,7 engine, What to do with it |
DavidSweden |
Sep 5 2015, 09:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 8-June 14 From: Sweden Member No.: 17,452 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I have the chance to pick up a 1,7 engine for about $300, its seems like a pity to pass it over but I am wondering what I can do with it. The engine in my car is a 2.0, can I build a stroker from the 1,7 or use it in some other way or just use it for spares?
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jimkelly |
Sep 5 2015, 09:53 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I believe 1.7 can be machined top accept 1.8 and 2.0 heads and cylinders. 1.7 at least is d jet like your 2.0. could be a back up motor with slightly less hp. though exhaust would be different too.
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wndsrfr |
Sep 5 2015, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,430 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the chance to pick up a 1,7 engine for about $300, its seems like a pity to pass it over but I am wondering what I can do with it. The engine in my car is a 2.0, can I build a stroker from the 1,7 or use it in some other way or just use it for spares? My 2316 is built on a 1.7 case, 80mm crank and 96mm p&c's. Just clearance the case a bit for the crank. The real money is in the Hoffman heads and intake & exhaust so it breathes well. Puts down 165hp at the wheels....hang on! |
stugray |
Sep 5 2015, 12:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
IIRC, all cases are the same dimensions.
In fact I believe that Jake said he prefers the 1.7s for a fresh build. Dont remember why but guessing that they just have not been abused as much as a larger motor? |
mepstein |
Sep 5 2015, 12:49 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,324 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
IIRC, all cases are the same dimensions. In fact I believe that Jake said he prefers the 1.7s for a fresh build. Dont remember why but guessing that they just have not been abused as much as a larger motor? Jake told me the early 1.7 was better metal and less stressed/overheated. His choice for the hi po builds. |
Spoke |
Sep 5 2015, 02:19 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,992 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
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jimkelly |
Sep 5 2015, 02:31 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don't know about Sweden but here in america most 914 owners DON'T drive their cars. for many, it is because they don't have a running engine. I say and decent 1.7 is far better than a non running engine. while 2.0 is probably better, it is not better by enough to look down on a 1.7.
that said, to me, a 1.7 can be awesome, see this thread, which made a 1.7 and awesome motor in my book. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...54&hl=turbo |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 5 2015, 03:30 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I've got several 1.7's and 1.8's. I'd buy any running engine for 300. I put many many miles on a 94mm piston 1.7. It was a hoot to drive. Low end torque is awesome. Boat anchor? Not!
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Mueller |
Sep 5 2015, 05:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I don't know about Sweden but here in america most 914 owners DON'T drive their cars. for many, it is because they don't have a running engine. I say and decent 1.7 is far better than a non running engine. while 2.0 is probably better, it is not better by enough to look down on a 1.7. that said, to me, a 1.7 can be awesome, see this thread, which made a 1.7 and awesome motor in my book. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...54&hl=turbo ^this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Earlier in the year I picked up a dead 1.7 for free so I'd have something to rebuild....(ran at one time, just been sitting for a long time) and recently I bought a very low mileage rebuilt 1.7 from MarkD that I hope to have in the car within the next 6 months. There are people that still want/need them... |
cary |
Sep 6 2015, 08:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
IIRC, all cases are the same dimensions. In fact I believe that Jake said he prefers the 1.7s for a fresh build. Dont remember why but guessing that they just have not been abused as much as a larger motor? Jake told me the early 1.7 was better metal and less stressed/overheated. His choice for the hi po builds. Search "1911 stroker". Lots of good reading. I believe that's where I've read those comments by Jake. I have two 1.7's sitting on the shelf for future use. |
McMark |
Sep 6 2015, 09:05 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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The cases are all the same, so if you've ever thought about building a different, or fresh motor, you could pick this up as a platform to build off of. 1911 is a stock 1.7 crank (66mm stroke) with big-bore 96mm pistons (stock is 90). These can be really fun motors, comparable to a stock 2.0. There are no stroker cranks that would work with the other 1.7 components. If you replace the crank and rods, you've got the whole world of engine size possibilities open to you. And then there's always the turbo option... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
arkitect |
Sep 6 2015, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The cases are all the same, so if you've ever thought about building a different, or fresh motor, you could pick this up as a platform to build off of. 1911 is a stock 1.7 crank (66mm stroke) with big-bore 96mm pistons (stock is 90). These can be really fun motors, comparable to a stock 2.0. There are no stroker cranks that would work with the other 1.7 components. If you replace the crank and rods, you've got the whole world of engine size possibilities open to you. And then there's always the turbo option... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Mark, I like your new avatar showing the transition to your new place. Are you all packed? Dave |
DavidSweden |
Sep 6 2015, 10:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 8-June 14 From: Sweden Member No.: 17,452 Region Association: Scandinavia |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The cases are all the same, so if you've ever thought about building a different, or fresh motor, you could pick this up as a platform to build off of. 1911 is a stock 1.7 crank (66mm stroke) with big-bore 96mm pistons (stock is 90). These can be really fun motors, comparable to a stock 2.0. There are no stroker cranks that would work with the other 1.7 components. If you replace the crank and rods, you've got the whole world of engine size possibilities open to you. And then there's always the turbo option... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) McMark, Questions: Is it just a case of boring out the existing cylinders and installing the 96 Pistons and then reusing the existing rods and heads (heads modified to take larger cylinders)? What about the FI is it best to go with a modern ECU? Thanks |
Kraftwerk |
Sep 6 2015, 10:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Bbbbbrroooklynnn Member No.: 8,085 |
My 1.7 engine is peppy and has good throttle response, great street engine. "Low end torque is awesome." so true. Top-end lacks a bit over 80 mph up steep hills, but sometimes lots of power over 80mph, is, well , pricey.. I got that in my M3 and then there are speeding tickets to worry about.
Getting a second 1.7 engine, soon, barter situation, & fingers crossed it's a 1911. Happy to have a spare engine in my kitchen, just in case. Will post a picture when I get it. Keep in mind a stock 1.7 engine is only 8 hp less than a stock 2.0. Us 1.7 owners should start our own secret club. Shhhhhhh! |
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