 How stong is the stock engine bar, will it a Subaru engine |
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| tazz9924 |
 Jan 15 2016, 09:24 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: 31-May 15 From: Mooresville NC Member No.: 18,779 Region Association: None  |
Hello 914 World, im building a suby swap and i have small car engine mounts. i was thinking about modifying the stock engine bar to except the small car mounts but is it strong enough? Also as a side question would it make an intense axle angle with a suby 5 speed?
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| Andyrew |
Jan 15 2016, 09:43 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Yes, V8 conversions have used the stock engine bar without any issues. It will hold the subaru engine no problem, in fact they are not that much different weight wise.
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| tazz9924 |
Jan 15 2016, 11:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: 31-May 15 From: Mooresville NC Member No.: 18,779 Region Association: None |
Awesome thank you!
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| JRust |
Jan 15 2016, 11:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I would recommend the early engine bar for tail shift tranny's over the late side shift bar. It is very stout & easier to build on. The later side shift engine bar not so much
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jan 16 2016, 12:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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It'll hold it, the problem is the weird leverage put on the bar because of how far the mounts are from the bar. On the Suby, they're at the back of the engine, versus right up front on the 914 Type 4 engine. That's why a lot of people end up just making a cradle.
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Jan 16 2016, 02:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States 
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Mount the bar solid to the engine and then use the 70-72 engine mounts at the ends of the crossbar. This worked super good on the EG33 engine I had in my car to start with.
I made the engine and transaxle mounts in about 4 hrs. If I was doing another Subaru conversion that's the way I would do it. The stock Subaru mounts are way to soft to use without using the stock lateral rear upper mount a Subaru uses. Bob |
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| Series9 |
Jan 16 2016, 06:40 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Both early and late bars will easily hold it.
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| tazz9924 |
Jan 17 2016, 01:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: 31-May 15 From: Mooresville NC Member No.: 18,779 Region Association: None |
Thanks for all the replies im now looking for an engine bar because the PO did not include it in the sale. anyone got one?
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| 914werke |
Jan 17 2016, 09:15 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,138 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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PM sent
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| Chris H. |
Jan 18 2016, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,032 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Jan 16 2016, 02:16 PM)  Mount the bar solid to the engine and then use the 70-72 engine mounts at the ends of the crossbar. This worked super good on the EG33 engine I had in my car to start with. Bob Still working super good actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) . |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jan 18 2016, 08:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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Sorry for the hijack... so Chris, is the bar that you got from Bob an early, 70-72 bar (with the Subaru mounts welded to it, of course)? I know you're using the Suby transmission.
Since I am retaining the 901 transmission, and I have a side-shift, I'm trying to figure out how a way to use the following, if it's even possible. 1) Early 70-72 engine mounts mounting to a.. 2) Side shift engine bar (73-76) and building a... 3) Solid mount from that engine bar to the SVX mounts I have a cradle that JRust sent me, but I'm not sure I want to go this route. |
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| Chris H. |
Jan 18 2016, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,032 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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No problem George... I am using Bob's mount which is an early bar that bolts directly to the EG33 with no Subaru engine mounts. It's very simple. I think there is a pic of it in my build thread. There are a couple of very sturdy pieces of iron bolted to the engine bar which are L shaped and then bolt where the engine mounts would normally bolt to. I'll be taking the engine out soon if you want me to measure it. You could definitely make a similar one for your engine, just be slightly different hole placement due to the trans being a little farther forward.
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