Best way to remove copper exhaust port gaskets, Is there a trick to it? Installing new exhaust system |
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Best way to remove copper exhaust port gaskets, Is there a trick to it? Installing new exhaust system |
Beebo Kanelle |
Aug 7 2016, 11:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Got my old system out. and all the copper exhaust port gaskets remain on the heads. Looking for any guidance / leadership / hints / tricks before I start wailing on them.
thanks in advance |
stugray |
Aug 7 2016, 11:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Got my old system out. and all the copper exhaust port gaskets remain on the heads. Looking for any guidance / leadership / hints / tricks before I start wailing on them. thanks in advance Deform them carefully with a chisel, then you should be able to get under them with a dental pick |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 7 2016, 12:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,569 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Force, ( tap) (with a hammer) a thin screwdriver between the copper gasket and the head on one straight side of the gasket or the other.
Put a larger screwdriver into the slot and twist. It will fall out. Of course this requires use of new gaskets. |
DRPHIL914 |
Aug 7 2016, 01:59 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I used a curved pick that was able to grab the edge of it and pull it doe and it popped loose, I only had 2 that were really stuck.
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Drums66 |
Aug 7 2016, 02:05 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Rand |
Aug 7 2016, 03:52 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
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HAM Inc |
Aug 7 2016, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Use a right angle pick and pull it out. Find the place where it's closest to the port opening and hook and pull. Be patient.
I can't tell you how many heads I've run through the shop that were gouged from a screwdriver or chisel. The subsequent exhaust leak is virtually unrepairable without welding. You don't want to go there. Beleive me. |
injunmort |
Aug 7 2016, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
they are a pia. best luck i have had is to gently tap in a thin headed screwdriver into the copper gasket and deform it towards the port and then grab it with a pick. and of course when you go to replace them they won't stay in place.
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Beebo Kanelle |
Aug 7 2016, 07:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thank you to all! GOT IT OUT!
Followed your ideas and suggestions - Tapped... Bent... Coereced.... Then, Lo and Behold! it just dropped out as though it was toying with me ! Thanks again. |
forrestkhaag |
Aug 11 2016, 09:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 21-April 14 From: Scottsdale, Arizona Member No.: 17,273 Region Association: Southwest Region |
and just to close on this one, .... when installing your new copper gaskets, consider placing the annealed copper gaskets on your exhaust pipe ends, then use blue tape or any good tape to afix them to the exhaust pipe in their correct alignment with the pipe and head, then trim any and all tape from the mating surfaces, then raise the header or HE and gently tighten each copper nut.. the tape goes away with the first use and the copper gasket stays with you as you fit them to the head.
Sidebar: (Bruce Stone) Annealing the gaskets prior to installation softens them to the extent that they will allow the proper torque to seal against exhaust leaks without pulling a stud. simply heat them up with a torch, and drop them off of your coat-hanger wire hook into tap water. the properties of the copper are instantly changed from a "ping" sound at a 6" drop / to a thump... soft metal......... cheers |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 12 2016, 05:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,569 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
This is a simple way I've found to install the copper exhaust seals.
Remove residue from port surface with a long flat scraper or screwdriver. Coat seal on one side with wheel bearing grease. Lift seal into place being sure it is properly seated. Lift exhaust into place and keep pressure on it until you have at least two nuts keeping it snug. Finish installing the remaining nuts, tightening them uniformly. If you hear leakage from a single cylinder it can be isolated by removing one spark plug wire at a time from the running engine. |
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