 Porsche 914/6 GT Ex KREMER Racing car, Looking for a new home |
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| Nine_14 |
 Aug 11 2016, 11:32 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 30-August 12 From: Germany Member No.: 14,873 Region Association: Germany  |
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| SirAndy |
Aug 11 2016, 11:56 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,205 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| db9146 |
Aug 11 2016, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None 
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Cool....but missing the vintage seats. Its interesting that they've thrown in pics of other cars. Hhmmmmm..... and the K&N air filters?
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| sixnotfour |
Aug 11 2016, 01:38 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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cough cough bS.....
Mr. Uli Richter built this car and raced it one or two times until he died in a cup-car accident during the 24h-race at the Nürburgring in 2002 (or 2003, I can't remember). The next owner was Oliver Mathai, he raced it at the historic races until he sold it to France or Belgium and those are the facts. You may want to further check your resources and confirm what I just said, it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not. This car drive by ADAC-Classic Trophy 2006 with Michael Martin and Michael Rook |
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| SirAndy |
Aug 11 2016, 02:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,205 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM)  cough cough bS..... it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not. The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit. Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| 0396 |
Aug 11 2016, 02:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Nine_14 @ Aug 11 2016, 10:32 AM) Someone with deep pockets should jump in and fetch it before someone else in Europe does. Who's going to step up - especially those that "have " been searching far and wide for a -6. |
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| sixnotfour |
Aug 11 2016, 09:59 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 11 2016, 12:09 PM) QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM) cough cough bS..... it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not. The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit. Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I didn't give credit to the og poster and the remarks are from when it was previously for sale..12-Sep-2009 21:59.. my bad the picture in the add are very misleading ........ the chassis number stamped in the wheel well ....well ??? buy it now.. may have been at Kremers ,,woopee ..it crashed hard dissappeared until uli richter had it built.. If you need a FIA paper trail for modern racing its perfect.. Attached image(s) 
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| SixerJ |
Aug 12 2016, 01:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 11 2016, 09:09 PM) QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM) cough cough bS..... it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not. The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit. Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Interesting that he could afford to install the 100lt tank, shock tower supports etc, but ran out of coin for the metal cooler shroud (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Even I have one of those.......no tank or shock towers yet though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| sechszylinder |
Aug 12 2016, 12:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None
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Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one.. The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin. Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ... Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ... br Benno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) |
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| sixnotfour |
Aug 12 2016, 01:09 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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first dated ?? FIA papers ,,recreation..little to no GT parts..
mY former employer owns Ferrari 512m 1008...Pedro Rodriguez was killed in it and the serial number was bought from Hubert Mullers estate and it was recreated in kentuky USA..kinds creepy working on a Ferrari that a great Porsche driver was killed in well parts of it anyways. Attached image(s)   
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| 0396 |
Aug 12 2016, 01:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM) Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ... The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one.. The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin. Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ... Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ... br Benno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above. I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too? |
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| sechszylinder |
Aug 12 2016, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM) QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM) Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ... The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one.. The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin. Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ... Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ... br Benno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above. I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too? Hi, the chassis number should look like this http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015 the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells. http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017 I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings. br Benno |
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| 0396 |
Aug 12 2016, 02:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 01:05 PM) QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM) QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM) Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ... The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one.. The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin. Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ... Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ... br Benno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above. I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too? Hi, the chassis number should look like this http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015 the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells. http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017 I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings. br Benno It's been awhile since I looked at mine, I guess I have to uncover mine to validate this. |
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| gms |
Aug 12 2016, 02:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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"Built with factory GT parts" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
should we start with front strut reinforcement  oil system, seat belt reinforcements  seats, steering wheel and dash  ...I could go on |
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| gms |
Aug 12 2016, 02:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 03:19 PM) QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 01:05 PM) QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM) QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM) Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ... The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one.. The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin. Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ... Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ... br Benno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above. I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too? Hi, the chassis number should look like this http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015 the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells. http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017 I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings. br Benno It's been awhile since I looked at mine, I guess I have to uncover mine to validate this. Yes every 1970 or 1971 914/6 I have seen has a star before and after the VIN the 1972 914/6 has an asterisk like the 914/4 |
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| gms |
Aug 12 2016, 02:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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and here is the the car made right before it
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| sechszylinder |
Aug 12 2016, 11:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(gms @ Aug 12 2016, 12:29 PM) and here is the the car made right before it so, it really seems to be a faked -6 and not the original car or a crash repair ?!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) br benno |
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| SixerJ |
Aug 13 2016, 02:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
I thought that given the proper evidence and participation of the factory they will re-stamp the chassis after say an inner wing replacement due to an accident
The numbers seem a bit too evenly spaced / lined up. On the production line I suspect they would not have been taking too long over the stamping Does seem a bit odd and you would have thought the advert would be a bit more up front about the history |
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